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Old 12-17-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Ha ha I'm not trying to be rude but were you criticizing him or cutting him down or bragging about yourself? Some people react in the way you described. Name dropping and saying how good he does things if he thinks your criticism of him is wrong.

Whatever you described doesn't sound like narcissism. Bragging, boasting, and rudeness maybe but narcissistic people are extremely self absorbed and exploitative. They usually take advantage of you somehow.
I was merely sharing a reference. As I tried to wade through my own confusion over what I was encountering, I came upon his book. I am still perplexed by the whole NPD thing. I know they are notoriously difficult to treat in therapy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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Aside from boasting did he have any other narcissistic traits?

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I was merely sharing a reference. As I tried to wade through my own confusion over what I was encountering, I came upon his book. I am still perplexed by the whole NPD thing. I know they are notoriously difficult to treat in therapy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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Well, they come in different flavors. Not all brag that much. I think almost all of them have a consistent path of train wrecks in their lives and the older they get the more visible it is - relationship/marriage hopping, job hopping, location hopping, serious financial troubles, etc. And none of this is EVER their fault!
Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. The one outstanding trait, which makes the whole thing so tricky, is this whole blaming aspect. I know abusers do this. I am not so sure about narcissists. I am sure about their inflated sense of self-importance and being out of touch with reality. They think they are all that, but when you look at things objectively, reality does not square with their own self inflated grandiosity.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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Aside from boasting did he have any other narcissistic traits?
Yes, he actually did and if you read more about narcissists you will see this. He was very charismatic, a pillar of the community, often projecting different images. While his coworkers thought one way of him, I knew the other side. Narcissists compartmentalize their lives. They look really good on the outside, but I knew better. This is what makes it so hard to distinguish between an abuser or narcissist or both.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:49 PM
 
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They usually have status and reputation. I'll give you that much.

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Yes, he actually did and if you read more about narcissists you will see this. He was very charismatic, a pillar of the community,
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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Yes, he actually did and if you read more about narcissists you will see this. He was very charismatic, a pillar of the community, often projecting different images. While his coworkers thought one way of him, I knew the other side. Narcissists compartmentalize their lives. They look really good on the outside, but I knew better. This is what makes it so hard to distinguish between an abuser or narcissist or both.
Most screwed-up people are.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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They usually have status and reputation. I'll give you that much.
Yes, and in his own way, that he did have. He thrived on knowing "important people," having VIP passes and the like. He would say things like, "If I were not so strong I could not have gotten this far in my life," when the truth is his only asset is a big truck that isn't even paid for. He lives in someone else's house and all of his possessions are in storage. Nonetheless, he cultivates this public image that looks very good on the outside.

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Old 12-17-2009, 09:58 PM
 
Location: DFW
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"Enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think about me ?"

Bette Midler, Beaches
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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"Enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think about me ?"

Bette Midler, Beaches
This pretty much sums it up. I will never understand their minds, as much as I might try. I don't really feel sorry for them at all. The havoc they wreak upon other people's lives is just too much for words. I'd encourage anyone to go visit that NPD forum to see the wreckage themselves.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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Chocolate,
If you're working with children of narcissists (or really anybody scarred by NPD's), this is the best book I've found for working with clients: Amazon.com: The Narcissistic Family: Diagnosis and Treatment (9780787908706): Stephanie Donaldson-Pressman, Robert M. Pressman: Books
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