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Women can be openly bisexual and men still want to be with them with few reservations. But if a man says he is bisexual (or even bicurious) women won't come anywhere near him (especially in the black community.)
Now I personally feel this is a double standard. I wonder why this stigma against bisexual men exists. I know the STDs play a role.
(Disclaimer: I'm a straight male.)
Its called preference.
And from women I have heard speak on black men and ranges of sexuality it has to do with the mechanics of it.
Bisexual women have no penetration with each other unless they use a sex toy.
And, from threesome experience, porn and having bisexual women acquaintances, women usually spend more time orally pleasing each other and caressing.
Which in no way threatens their femininity in the minds of a guy.
From the women's perspective gay men penetrate each other.
And , from the straight women I know, this seems to make a man less masculine.
Especially if he is on the receiving end of the penetration.
Then it depends where one lives.
Black communities have varying sexual attitudes depending on their locations.
What an astute question for someone to FINALLY ask...you cant truly dislike your own gender in its entirety unless you dislike yourself to an extent. This is precisely why I say that I believe that everyone is subconsciously bisexual to a degree. It doesnt make sense for a person who truly loves themselves to be absolutely and rigidly repulsed by their own gender which is part and partial of themselves. That is a conflict of interests, that when taken to the terminal degree would result in mass suicide...
Hold on now, the opposite of being sexually attractive to someone just like yourself, or loving yourself, isn't being repulsed by someone just like yourself, not from a gender point of view nor anything else. Loving myself and only feeling sexually attracted to men isn't a conflict of interests of all. There are different types of love, love isn't one size fits all. Without knowing you, my guess is you loved your mother in a way totally different than your last SO.
Hold on now, the opposite of being sexually attractive to someone just like yourself, or loving yourself, isn't being repulsed by someone just like yourself, not from a gender point of view nor anything else. Loving myself and only feeling sexually attracted to men isn't a conflict of interests of all. There are different types of love, love isn't one size fits all. Without knowing you, my guess is you loved your mother in a way totally different than your last SO.
I dont know about that...although incestuous relationships are frowned upon, most men, unless they have unhealthy relationships with their mothers DO seek the qualities their mother possessed in a romantic relationship woman. Do they love them in the same way?...no, but the love does come from the same place I believe.
What do you consider the polar opposite of being attracted to/loving someone like yourself? I dont think it could be heterosexuality because you would both still share the commonality of liking yourself/your gender. so I think the polar opposite of loving someone like yourself, is hating someone like yourself who would essentially hate themselves as well....which is a recipe for suicide.
I realize these are extremes, as implied by my use of the phrase "when taken to the terminal degree", but thats why I said I think that these exist exist on a subconscious level. However in practice, humans of course gravitate toward moderation.
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Eh, I'll admit it might not be fair, but all of this still seems very sexually greedy to me. There are many aspects to everyone's sexuality, but it doesn't mean we indulge them all. It just seems that bisexual men in particular feel they should indulge all sexual desires. It's very off putting.
I'd say the same of a heterosexual man who indulges in a lot of casual, unemotional sex with women: They are also sexually greedy, because they are all about the pursuit of the orgasm and nothing more - same as you when it comes to men. The only difference may in fact be that hetero men understand that to tell women about their casual sexual exploits will turn them off big time, whereas bisexual men instead talk about it and want their behavior to be accepted.
I hope I'm not the only one noticing a lot of biphobia and ignorant comments about bisexuality (like the one I'm quoting) in this thread.
Here's a web site that does a good job dispelling many of the myths about bisexuality: UD Allies Program Resources: Myths and Realities of Bisexuality (http://www.udel.edu/allies/resources/bimyths.html - broken link)
Maybe you should lose some weight, lift weights, and get some cosmetic surgery. There are very attractive men with very soft curves. Just take a look around next time you are at a gay pride parade.
I'm pretty skinny, but muscled. I get a workout at my job, and I walk back and forth to work. I just don't see men as being as curvy as women.
I hope I'm not the only one noticing a lot of biphobia and ignorant comments about bisexuality (like the one I'm quoting) in this thread.
Here's a web site that does a good job dispelling many of the myths about bisexuality: UD Allies Program Resources: Myths and Realities of Bisexuality (http://www.udel.edu/allies/resources/bimyths.html - broken link)
There is nothing in this opinion based link which invalidates my own opinions set forth on this thread. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the truth.
I dont know about that...although incestuous relationships are frowned upon, most men, unless they have unhealthy relationships with their mothers DO seek the qualities their mother possessed in a romantic relationship woman. Do they love them in the same way?...no, but the love does come from the same place I believe.
What do you consider the polar opposite of being attracted to/loving someone like yourself? I dont think it could be heterosexuality because you would both still share the commonality of liking yourself/your gender. so I think the polar opposite of loving someone like yourself, is hating someone like yourself who would essentially hate themselves as well....which is a recipe for suicide.
I realize these are extremes, as implied by my use of the phrase "when taken to the terminal degree", but thats why I said I think that these exist exist on a subconscious level. However in practice, humans of course gravitate toward moderation.
I know you directed this towards Onglet but I'm curious as to why you are fixated on polar opposites?
Just because a person is not physically attracted to the same sex does not mean they hate their sex. It could simply be a matter of indifference. Kinda of like "We're too similar to each other. I need my partner to be different from me."
There is nothing in this opinion based link which invalidates my own opinions set forth on this thread. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the truth.
What's the truth? That all bisexual men are "sexually greedy," as you put it? That's quite a generalization. Just because a person is bisexual doesn't mean that he/she is promiscuous.
I know you directed this towards Onglet but I'm curious as to why you are fixated on polar opposites?
Just because a person is not physically attracted to the same sex does not mean they hate their sex. It could simply be a matter of indifference. Kinda of like "We're too similar to each other. I need my partner to be different from me."
Yeah, I understand...but I wouldnt say that Im fixated on polar opposites...I actually attempted to explain that: although my theory is based on the two extremes of love and hate, I think most people operate within a certain modicum of emotions for both genders/multiple genders...which is what I consider the subconscious bisexuality of people (exercising a modicum of at least tolerance for their own gender, and of course subsequently, themselves)...
in the end, I guess all Im saying is that although I realize that people actually function somewhere within the vicissitudes of love and hate, when taken to the extreme, this tolerance of one's own gender would essentially have to become bisexuality. (with the other necessity for lifes sustenance being heterosexuality of course)..
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I hope I'm not the only one noticing a lot of biphobia and ignorant comments about bisexuality (like the one I'm quoting) in this thread.
