Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Since I only get one life, I'm not going to waste it picking one of the multitude of religions/beliefs and trying to follow it in the belief that it is the correct choice.
So, this is the new atheistic tactic: equate belief in God with delusion. You will answer on Judgement Day for your mocking. You will be held accountable for every idle word.
de·lu·sion: A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence.
de·lu·sion: A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence.
The bold is the missing ingredient in your indictment of believers, Sans . . . what will it take to break through your arrogant facade of knowledge? What exactly is this "invalidating evidence" you speak of?
The bold is the missing ingredient in your indictment of believers, Sans . . . what will it take to break through your arrogant facade of knowledge? What exactly is this "invalidating evidence" you speak of?
It's very simple. If you make a claim, provide the proper evidence to back it up.
Why is this a hard concept to understand? You do it for everything else.
You tell me you flew in a spaceship to work this morning...prove it! show me!
You tell me you just won the lottery...prove it! show me!
You tell me you just had dinner with big foot and he paid...prove it! show me!
You believe god causes earthquakes and talks to you...prove it! show me!
If you can't prove it to people because it's only unique to you, then don't get upset when people don't believe you because people really don't need to believe anything anyone says, just because they said it or a book said it.
Religious people act like their belief is the only thing that people ask proof for and it's not. You use it everyday, but you give your own belief a free pass
And then to call it bad or stupid for people to actually want some evidence in order to believe something is truly ignorant.
It's very simple. If you make a claim, provide the proper evidence to back it up.
Why is this a hard concept to understand? You do it for everything else.
You tell me you flew in a spaceship to work this morning...prove it! show me!
You tell me you just won the lottery...prove it! show me!
You tell me you just had dinner with big foot and he paid...prove it! show me!
You believe god causes earthquakes and talks to you...prove it! show me!
If you can't prove it to people because it's only unique to you, then don't get upset when people don't believe you because people really don't need to believe anything anyone says, just because they said it or a book said it.
Religious people act like their belief is the only thing that people ask proof for and it's not. You use it everyday, but you give your own belief a free pass
And then to call it bad or stupid for people to actually want some evidence in order to believe something is truly ignorant.
You miss the point . . . Sanspeur laid claim to evidence "invalidating" the existence of God. There is no such evidence and I called him on it.
The core message passed down in the legend of the man known as Jesus the Christ was, "Love each other". THAT'S supposed to be the foundation of Christian concept...from what I can see.
The people ptsum refers to were/are the ultimate antithesis of that. The "operative word" in his post being "so-called". They didn't/don't have a clue how to embrace that legendary message...they did/do exactly otherwise...they hurt and hate(d)...they were/are mean, and cruel, and selfish, and evil. Good Christians?...Yeah, rrrrrrrrright...just the opposite! Then they wonder why so many are "turned off" by Christianity.
Are these the same people that some say founded a Christian nation? Obviously, they didn't. As early as 1797, when John Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli, it was reiterated that the United States was NOT a Christian nation. No constitutional amendment has been passed to change that, so the 1st amendment is still the law of the land.
American leaders, have always consider America to be a Christian nation. That's why 'in god we trust', was printed on coins, many years ago. My point was, that based on all I've talked about in my previous post, that there's NO WAY, that American can be a Christian nation. And that's regardless of whether Christians consider America to be a Christian nation, or anyone else does.
Quoting from the US Treasury: "The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War." It had nothing to do with leaders considering the United States a Christian country.
Despite the exact origins of the 'In God We Trust' statement on coins, many leaders throughout history, have (wrongfully) consider America to be a Christian nation. All I was trying to do, was point out that due to its past and present values, American has no business, trying to claim that it's a Christian Nation.
I can't even begin to express how much I disagree with that ridiculous claim. Secular humanism is a great ill. Godless materialism is a great ill. Belief in salvation through Jesus Christ is the only healing balm for any nation, or any individual.
make an excel spreadsheet and correlate percentage of individuals holding strong religious beliefs with number of murders in a country. that alone should be enough to show that secular humanism is the better alternative. where Christianity can work an individual level to help people better themselves, it simply does not work at a larger (eg state) scale.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
