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Old 09-18-2007, 04:16 PM
 
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The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that a person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for then to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality.

However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).
yeah but see.. the bible doesn't mention "homosexuality".


Genesis 19:1-13 - yeah I don't see any mention here..

Leviticus 18:22 - also talks about not playing with the skin of a pig. Football players be damned. I tend to believe this was written for priests.

Romans 1:26-27 - Speaks more to pleasure than anything else

Corinthians 6:9 - sounds like there is still confusion on malokois and arsenokoitai.. I'm not an ancient greek so I can't tell one way or another.

So it seems like there isn't one place that says "you gay.. you go to hell". I haven't seen it anywhere. As such.. I'll let god make the judgement.. after all isn't that what he is there for?

 
Old 09-18-2007, 04:17 PM
 
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Yes but aparently you still have the homosexual desire so yes that puts you under conviction unless you turn completly from it
Do you have no sinful desires? Having temptations to sin is different than actually sinning.
 
Old 09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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Yes but aparently you still have the homosexual desire so yes that puts you under conviction unless you turn completly from it
What "desire" are you referring to?

And unless you feel you personally have the ability to judge someone, you might want to back off now. Because if you want to go head-to-head with me on this subject, I guarantee you will lose.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 12:01 PM
 
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Listen, if people want to dish out the comments to me, then make sure you can take them in return. Otherwise, don't bother. This isn't a game to me.

If you can't take the time to READ what I've posted, or respond to a question I've asked you in return, then I'm sick of wasting my time by posting in this place.
 
Old 09-19-2007, 04:18 PM
 
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"does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that a person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires"

Malachi you seem to contradict yourself. But don't worry the Bible has a lot of contradictions.
 
Old 09-25-2007, 04:41 PM
 
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Mods, will you please close this thread now. Thanks.
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