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Old 12-03-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Please post your proof from the time machine to show as 100% fact that we evolved from primates. Oh wait, it's still just a theory in the REAL world.
I'm not sure what you mean by "still just a theory". Consider this, creation isn't even a theory. How does that sound? Creation has no explanation, no mechanism, no evidence, no theory, no nothing. Evolution on the other hand, has explanation, has evidence (fossils), has more evidence (shared characteristics), has even more evidence (genetics), has a theory (the theory of evolution).

Evolution is not an idea or concept - that would be a hypothesis. There is no hypothesis of evolution. Creation on the other hand, is a hypothesis.

Would you like to know the theory of rocketry? It's 'still just a theory'. Well actually, it's the theory. See what I mean? A theory describes how something works. It's a confusing word because it has it is misused in common talk.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:49 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I'm not sure what you mean by "still just a theory". Consider this, creation isn't even a theory. How does that sound? Creation has no explanation, no mechanism, no evidence, no theory, no nothing. Evolution on the other hand, has explanation, has evidence (fossils), has more evidence (shared characteristics), has even more evidence (genetics), has a theory (the theory of evolution).

Evolution is not an idea or concept - that would be a hypothesis. There is no hypothesis of evolution. Creation on the other hand, is a hypothesis.

Would you like to know the theory of rocketry? It's 'still just a theory'. Well actually, it's the theory. See what I mean? A theory describes how something works. It's a confusing word because it has it is misused in common talk.
Jeff has been told that many times before. He just likes to play ignorant.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:19 PM
 
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Only a theory is a horribly ignorant statement.

Theories are even more powerful than facts. The theory of evolution explains precisely a multitude of facts(like the fact that organisms change over time=evolve). You seem to deny/twist these facts...so are lying and going against your religion.
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "still just a theory". Consider this, creation isn't even a theory. How does that sound? Creation has no explanation, no mechanism, no evidence, no theory, no nothing. Evolution on the other hand, has explanation, has evidence (fossils), has more evidence (shared characteristics), has even more evidence (genetics), has a theory (the theory of evolution).

Evolution is not an idea or concept - that would be a hypothesis. There is no hypothesis of evolution. Creation on the other hand, is a hypothesis.

Would you like to know the theory of rocketry? It's 'still just a theory'. Well actually, it's the theory. See what I mean? A theory describes how something works. It's a confusing word because it has it is misused in common talk.
Oh I'm sure you know exactly what I've meant. The bottom line is you have no conclusive proof that we evolved from primates. Period. OTOH, there is plenty of evidence to support the supernatural. And if the supernatural is possible then you have to allow for the possibility that God exists.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Unfortuantely that is Jeff's standard MO, he makes claims and accusations mostly totally unfounded and will never back them up. If you post links or reasons why his claims are incorrect or even that he is mistaken he comes back with claiming that you insulted his intelligence and that you are claiming that you know everything about anything. The bolded text is the reason for much of the run ins that I had with Jeff. And Jeff I do mean only the bolded text not the rest of that sentence.

His objections to evolution were answered by yourself and me plus how evolution actually does work has been explained to him and others but they do not want to understand it. That goes against their religious beliefs. The biggest problem I see is that they want science to add that maybe God did it in many scientific disciplines and they fail to understand that adding that God might have been involved removes it from science into opinion.
I have noticed this as well.


I also noticed that people like Jeff have no interest whatsoever in learning about things like evolution. According to them, they already have all the answers, so why waste time on science? Unless, of course, they want to try and find some little thing they can use against science to say, "Goddunnit".


They are scared to death of losing faith, so they just avoid or ignore anything that may test it.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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Please post your proof from the time machine to show as 100% fact that we evolved from primates. Oh wait, it's still just a theory in the REAL world.
Please post your proof from the time machine to show as 100% fact that we are mud people made by a god. Oh wait, it's still just your opinion in the REAL world.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:13 AM
 
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Only a theory is a horribly ignorant statement.

Theories are even more powerful than facts. The theory of evolution explains precisely a multitude of facts(like the fact that organisms change over time=evolve). You seem to deny/twist these facts...so are lying and going against your religion.
Theories are often disproven.
I am sure the theory of evolution will soon be disproven. It is illogical especially with current advances in science.

The odds of just the single cell coming together with all its very many parts and all the coding having to be perfectly in place from the very start of the cells existence rules out evolution. The odds of evolution bringing about just the single cell is 1 in trillions and trillions and trillions. It would be akin to some chemicals getting together and accidentally building a fully functioning nuclear submarine.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:15 AM
 
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Please post your proof from the time machine to show as 100% fact that we are mud people made by a god. Oh wait, it's still just your opinion in the REAL world.
That is based on faith just as evolution is based on faith.

You have no real proof humans evolved from the single cell. But scientists pronounce it as a fact without proof. It is faith based.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Baldwin County, AL
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That is based on faith just as evolution is based on faith.

You have no real proof humans evolved from the single cell. But scientists pronounce it as a fact without proof. It is faith based.
Oh, we have plenty of real world proof, you just choose to ignore it. Creationism however, has nothing but a book of stories.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:19 AM
 
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Everyone seems to have their balls up over this.
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