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Amen!
No it isn't. It is expressing an opinion. Only those who actually THINK their beliefs are unquestionable and beyond dispute can be hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by JJ_Maxx
So you are admitting that your beliefs are questionable?
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
Do you believe yours are NOT?????
Answer JJ_Maxx's question. Are you admitting that your beliefs are questionable?
I'll ask about a specific belief of yours. You claim that God is not supernatural. You claim that there is no such thing as the supernatural. Are you admitting that your belief about that is questionable? Are you admitting that you might be wrong?
Last edited by Michael Way; 12-09-2016 at 05:50 PM..
Having been an active participant on these forums for eight years now, it recently occurred to me that it is the people who are the least secure in their own beliefs who are the most judgmental and condemning of others. Those who are the most secure in their own beliefs seem to be the most willing to look at alternative perspectives with an open mind and a sincere interest in learning something new. They are willing to defend their own position, but they do not feel the continual need to tell everybody else, "You don't really know God. But I do, so shut up and listen to me. I'm gonna tell you how it is."
Thoughts?
(Oops. I put this in the Christianity forum. I meant to put it in the general religion forum, because I think atheists and other non-Christians can be guilty of this as well as Christians.)
Moved it for you. (All you need to do is report the thread so we know to move it.)
My response to that is simply to question why we think we know what we know? And what is our source of knowledge? Are all sources equal?
Religious faith (belief without a requirement of substantiation) is a totally failed epistemology that does not lead in the direction of actual truth. It starts with conclusions rather than arriving at them.
Free rational inquiry on the other hand starts with evidence and arrives at conclusions from there (or in the event there is no evidence, makes no conclusion at all beyond that a thing that isn't evidenced is highly unlikely to be true).
Answer JJ_Maxx's question. Are you admitting that your beliefs are questionable?
No. These silly semantic games are pointless. Saying they are questionable would imply I do not believe them to be true. I am just acknowledging that they can be questioned. Saying they can be questioned simply means that others need not agree with me.
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I'll ask about a specific belief of yours. You claim that God is not supernatural. You claim that there is no such thing as the supernatural. Are you admitting that your belief about that is questionable? Are you admitting that you might be wrong?
No. I do not believe there is any such thing as the supernatural. That does NOT mean that others cannot question it and need not agree.
So you are admitting that your beliefs are questionable?
I know that my beliefs are open to being questioned. I've never pretended otherwise. To assume that one is 'never wrong' is either hubris or delusion.
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“The problem is not religion or God. The actual problem is authoritarianism, mixed with the desire to angrily impose one’s personal apparently idealistic beliefs on others.”
― Abhijit Naskar
Last edited by FredNotBob; 12-09-2016 at 08:24 PM..
Religious faith (belief without a requirement of substantiation) is a totally failed epistemology that does not lead in the direction of actual truth. It starts with conclusions rather than arriving at them.
Free rational inquiry on the other hand starts with evidence and arrives at conclusions from there (or in the event there is no evidence, makes no conclusion at all beyond that a thing that isn't evidenced is highly unlikely to be true).
It is my firm belief that people should not hold firm beliefs.
(One of my favorite quotes, and seems relevant to the bickering in this thread).
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