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Old 03-13-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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I decided to be a hetero in probably the 4th grade. I was more attractive [sic] to girls than guys....


In no way to I think I am superior. We are both equally deserving on hell. Both sinners. While they bang same sex, I fornicate with the same sex. I do not selectively choose anything in the Bible. No where in the new law does it say kill homos.
Wait, what? Are you bi, straight or gay?
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Old 03-13-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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How's YOUR walk going? So far all I've seen are the rocks you throw from the bag you carry around and posts with anti-LGBTQ claims lifted from the aptly-named Slick's website.
I can see that you really love your stereotypes.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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I can see that you really love your stereotypes.
Uh huh. What you should see is that I think the aptly-named Slick's version of religion spreads prejudice and discrimination against the LGBTQ community.

Since you're new to this forum....I'll try and be more precise in the future.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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See how all that works?!
Still batting for the other team, I see.
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:48 PM
 
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Still batting for the other team, I see.

Nah...just calling it as *I* see it.
I said the parents should have gone to the wedding.

When you are a guy like me...everybody thinks you are "bad" and "immoral".
I'd probably be the last person anyone would want their child to have as a spouse...female or male.
So, I see all this, "They won't accept me for how I am...Boo Hoo Hoo!"...to be way over hyped. I have always dealt with people hating on me...and many refusing association or refusing to do business with me.
I also have my own opinion about "marriage" and the government involvement in it...you probably remember.

I also don't believe most of this, "God said so in the Bible", stuff against homos is legit. Those that don't like it personally point to scriptures they feel backs that up. Those that accept it...are "Liberal Christians"...and "interpret" differently.
What The Bible says has less to do with it than most think IMO...it is what THEY think about it.
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Old 03-13-2017, 10:05 PM
 
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A Christian can be gay. He just simply must not act on his gay desires.

Sucks and a tough life to live. But such is life.
You realize, of course, that the only reason why homosexuality was such a "sin" was because "God" (such as it was) wanted the tribe of Israel to grow its population?

I hope you understand this.

If two people of the same sex are banging away, no new children are being born and, subsequently, the tribe is not growing larger. In such a harsh and hostile land as the deserts of the Sinai surrounded by potentially unfriendly rival tribes, it was necessary to keep up the tribe's numbers.

Haven't you ever *wondered* why homosexuality was a sin in the first place? Or did you just blindly accept it and just "derpy derpy derp" continue on your merry way?

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with perversion or because the penis fits into the vagina or because a man is supposed to be with a woman or any of that made-up malarkey that the fundevangelists in the U.S.A. invented.

Nope.

The ban on homosexuality in the Bible was a pragmatic one. God -- or, rather, the tribal chieftains -- were beefing up the Hebrews to go to war. As an atheist, obviously I don't believe God commanded anyone to do anything. But later in the Bible, "God" commands the Israelites to wipe out everyone from Canaan to Jericho. You need a large, well-trained army to rampage across the Sinai and into the Promised Land like that. You can't get a large, well-trained army if too many of your men and women are banging the same sex.

Unfortunately, along come the fundamentalists and the evangelicals who put a moral spin on these laws -- laws that were meant specifically for Hebrews in a very specific place, time, and for a very specific purpose -- and now we have all kinds of whining and moaning about how horrible homosexuality is and how it's going to destroy the country and how angry God is with us and how the government should murder all the gays (thanks, Kevin Swanson, for that tidbit!), and blah blah blah!

NO!

Unless you're a Hebrew trying to populate the tribe of Israel so you can beef up the army before taking on the Canaanites in the 2nd millenium A.D., the law doesn't even apply to you.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Unless you're a Hebrew trying to populate the tribe of Israel so you can beef up the army before taking on the Canaanites in the 2nd millenium A.D., the law doesn't even apply to you.
Your post definitely brings up one of the (outdated) considerations for condemnation of any kind of homosexual relationship, but you do miss a few points.


Almost all of the proscriptions in the OT were about expressions of profligacy and/or idolatry and not specifically about any act expressing sexual elements of a relationship. The one possible exception is among a list of practices among the original inhabitants of the land and may have more to do with the idea of being "set apart" or maintaining "purity." A concept that Jesus noted as being off-base when He said that it is not what goes Into our mouths that defiles, but what comes out, meaning that the acts themselves may be of no consequence, but that the intent is what defines right or wrong.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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I would absolutely refuse to go to a gay wedding and I wouldn't go to a wedding of two heterosexuals who are living together before the wedding because I honor the God of the Bible.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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I would absolutely refuse to go to a gay wedding and I wouldn't go to a wedding of two heterosexuals who are living together before the wedding because I honor the God of the Bible.


"And because I love my faith and invisible God more than my friends and family!"


You, and people like you, are the problem, not the solution.
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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I would absolutely refuse to go to a gay wedding and I wouldn't go to a wedding of two heterosexuals who are living together before the wedding because I honor the God of the Bible.
The bible also calls for a number of marriages that are not common today. How do you feel about going to a person's wedding who has been divorced? What about a person who is marrying their second spouse, or their third, with the other spouses still being married to that person?

All biblical.
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