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Do professed Christians not use Leviticus 20:13 as a condemning text for homosexuality? If professed Christians do believe that text to apply to homosexuals then it says that homosexuals are to be put to death. It does not say that the sin is to be punished but rather the sinner. Is this a command of of love by God? I think not.
By the way, the Leviticus texts have nothing to do with homosexuality per se.
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Originally Posted by SaigonPaisa
Sleeping with the same sex is no different than fornicating with the opposite sex.
What's the big deal about two consenting adults - gay or straight - fornicating with one another? Why should what two consenting adults choose to do cause God's tights to get into such a twist ...it's none of His business.
Sleeping with the same sex is no different than fornicating with the opposite sex.
That's what they always say when they want to pretend that they treat homosexuality no different than heterosexuality.
Then they go back to harping endlessly on gay-this, same-sex-marriage-that, with nary a word about legally banning/prosecuting opposite sex cohabitation or adultery, thereby revealing that the whole notion that they're not singularly obsessed with gays is simply false.
That's what they always say when they want to pretend that they treat homosexuality no different than heterosexuality.
Then they go back to harping endlessly on gay-this, same-sex-marriage-that, with nary a word about legally banning/prosecuting opposite sex cohabitation or adultery, thereby revealing that the whole notion that they're not singularly obsessed with gays is simply false.
Some advice.
Useless worrying about other ppls thoughts and actions.
Do professed Christians not use Leviticus 20:13 as a condemning text for homosexuality? If professed Christians do believe that text to apply to homosexuals then it says that homosexuals are to be put to death. It does not say that the sin is to be punished but rather the sinner. Is this a command of of love by God? I think not.
By the way, the Leviticus texts have nothing to do with homosexuality per se.
What's the big deal about two consenting adults - gay or straight - fornicating with one another? Why should what two consenting adults choose to do cause God's tights to get into such a twist ...it's none of His business.
Whether it is wrong or not, the people we are talking about have exactly the same or more explicit rationale for their perceptions about fornication as same sex relations, and the point is to expose the fact that the emphasis on homosexual relations is not a matter of right or wrong, but of prejudice: they SAY it is the same, but they don't TREAT it the same.
Worrying about other people's thoughts and actions might be futile as far as reaching then, but at least exposing them may help others to see that they should not be supported in their action. And the point of exposing the attitude AS prejudice MAY help the others to realize why those people refuse to look at evidence that they are wrong in their assessment.
That's what they always say when they want to pretend that they treat homosexuality no different than heterosexuality.
Then they go back to harping endlessly on gay-this, same-sex-marriage-that, with nary a word about legally banning/prosecuting opposite sex cohabitation or adultery, thereby revealing that the whole notion that they're not singularly obsessed with gays is simply false.
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Originally Posted by SaigonPaisa
Some advice.
Useless worrying about other ppls thoughts and actions.
That's not advice.
It's a shameless evasion of my point with a totally absurd idea - namely, that we should not concern ourselves with the actions of others. But then, I didn't really expect you to defend the hypocrisy I highlighted because you can't.
The cogent verse is 1 John 4:20 "Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen."
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Originally Posted by ImissThe90's
Hey Nate! I, obviously, am not religious, but this quote rings true. How can you possibly love God (who is supposedly all loving) while hating people around you? I am pretty sure the God most Christians worship would not be discriminating against gay people, denying people rights, etc etc, yet for some reason they think they should do so in his name.
Makes very little sense to me, but then again, I am a heathen bound for hell or whatever. For no (good) reason mind you.
The confusion among otherwise decent Christians is the result of carnal thinking and focus NOT spiritual thinking and love. The 60's sexual revolution movement confused the understanding of love. Lust and carnal sexual acts have NOTHING to do with love (that does not mean love cannot be brought to those acts). Love can be brought to all acts because love is spiritual (a state of mind). God IS love and God is Spirit and the ONLY love that God is concerned about is agape - the well-being of everyone involved.
It's a shameless evasion of my point with a totally absurd idea - namely, that we should not concern ourselves with the actions of others. But then, I didn't really expect you to defend the hypocrisy I highlighted because you can't.
It is great advice.
Worrying about so called Christians is just dumb.
Or worrying about any so called anything is dumb.
As if these people are right or speak for their religion.
Do professed Christians not use Leviticus 20:13 as a condemning text for homosexuality? If professed Christians do believe that text to apply to homosexuals then it says that homosexuals are to be put to death. It does not say that the sin is to be punished but rather the sinner. Is this a command of of love by God? I think not.
By the way, the Leviticus texts have nothing to do with homosexuality per se.
What's the big deal about two consenting adults - gay or straight - fornicating with one another? Why should what two consenting adults choose to do cause God's tights to get into such a twist ...it's none of His business.
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Originally Posted by SaigonPaisa
Context.
Why is fornicating bad? Bc God said so.
Do you mean 'the Bible' said so? That so many Christians believe that the Bible - a book - is actually "God" is quite astounding. You DO know that the Bible consists of pages of print containing the thoughts and the experiences from the minds of ancient mortal beings, don't you, SP? If God exists He does so independently of the Bible. Christians MUST SURELY catch on to this fact eventually!
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