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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A
Homosexuality, not homosexuals.
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Who cares.
Like it or not, Christianity is fast becoming an ideology of hatred and bigotry -- a remnant of the Dark Ages that, in *this* country at least, does little more than justify prejudice.
Sure, you can tell yourself that the Bible only calls the homosexual sex act an "abomination," but the truth is, a very large percentage of those who insist upon supporting Christo-fascism with their scripture-quoting have essentially reduced being gay to *only* the sex act. Actually *loving* a member of the same sex isn't even in the equation.
Thus, when they see a gay person in real life or, much to their ridiculous out-spoken chagrin, see a gay person portrayed on television, all they see is a walking-talking gay sex act. PERIOD.
Which means all these Christo-fascists ever really see in a gay person is ... wait for it ... wait for it ... yeah ... an
abomination.
Those who take the Bible literally, those who think it's the inspired Word of God, those who live by its rules and laws, those who practically worship IT as much as they worship their God -- they already ignore far more of the Bible than they acknowledge, so there is a rotten, stinking, black-hearted ulterior motive at the core of this surge and push to keep the gays in the closet, off television, out of our literature, out of our schools, and as far away from the marriage altar as humanly possible.
Because there are dozens upon dozens upon DOZENS of better things, positive things, from the Bible to be focusing on, but these people *deliberately* and *willfully* chose to dig in their heels and hook their tenacious claws into one ... yeah, just ONE ... stupid sin. Meanwhile, there are horrific, violent, malicious, and outright evil sins going on all around them, but all they care about is keeping men (it's always focused on gay men) from sleeping together.
And it has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with "saving their souls," either. Rather, it has *everything* to do with gay men doing something these Christo-fascists find "yucky" and therefore it needs to stop. Everywhere. And by golly they're gonna use the Bible and their religion as one huge club to rally everyone around their bigotry, intolerance, and delicate sensibilities. They flap their gums about being a man, but if these male fascists were at ALL macho, they wouldn't be recoiling at the first sign of a gay kiss. Tough guys don't recoil ... right?
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A
You punish a child for coloring on the walls don't you? Yet you still love him. Punishment does not equate hate.
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Pardon me for saying so, but this is a flagrantly stupid analogy -- made all the more so due to it being destroyed by the same argument I'm about to give again and again and again.
Yes, you *punish* the child for coloring on the walls. Now, hopefully a good parent knows that a punishment isn't supposed to be vindictive, cruel, and pointless.
If the punishment is simply doled out as a way for the parent to vent his/her anger, then that is awful parenting -- and probably borders on abuse.
Punishments should be bad enough that the child will want to avoid receiving them -- but when a punishment is inevitably given out, it should be educational as well as disciplinary. If the child learns nothing from the experience, the behavior will only continue.
Murdering someone for having gay sex ... hmm ... now ... does that sound at ALL like it is educational as well as disciplinary? I think we know the answer.
No, instead, it's just vindictive. It's just wrath and nothing more. Note how the Bible NEVER explains why homosexuality is a sin or why anyone should have to die for it. I think it's very telling about the nature of the bigotry that occurred even in the Bronze Age against gays considering God did nary a thing to the very first killer who murdered his brother -- but the pillars of heaven themselves shake with fury over two people of the same gender in love having sex. Damn, man, when THAT happens, mobilize the whole damn town and KILL!
But murdering your own brother and then trying to conceal the body? Meh ... just run off somewhere and build Enoch.
But then, what should one expect from a vindictive God who thinks a proper punishment for all non-believers is eternal torture? Now *there* is a punishment born of malevalent wrath, a vain, self-serving God punishing not on the basis of discipline or education ... but to simply hurt those who dared to disobey and disbelieve.
Telling the Hebrews to kill every homosexual who has actually had sex with his/her partner is, well, child's play compared to the horrors of Bronze Age divinity.
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Originally Posted by Maccabee 2A
He created us, so yes it is his business.
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LOL! Yes, the ultimate authoritarian. The created have no rights against their creator. That has been the plot of dozens of science fiction yarns regarding androids that have achieved consciousness. And here's the real kicker: Should that ever occur, we humans we'll be far better Gods to our android creations than this Hebrew desert tribal god ever was to *his* creations.
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