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Old 12-31-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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It is an analogy, and a valid one. If you teach something (regardless of what it is), and 99% of your listeners don't get it ... can that possibly be 100% their fault?

Listen to your own feedback loop.

They don't get it because blind guides lead them--these assured them--you are saved or born again and it was pure lie to get a tithe. They do not teach all that Jesus taught. They get paid to teach their religions dogmas. Most cannot be bothered learning and applying-EVERY utterance from God--Jesus taught--Man MUST live by all of them, not if they want to, they MUST.--The learning never stops. Once ones are tickled with the lie--you are saved or born again they don't bother to learn every utterance--They think they have won already. Run from teachers like that. Jesus real teachers on earth make 100% sure every utterance is learned and discussed over and over, year after year, it NEVER stops. All can see if they have those teachers.
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Old 12-31-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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They don't get it because blind guides lead them--these assured them--you are saved or born again and it was pure lie to get a tithe. They do not teach all that Jesus taught. They get paid to teach their religions dogmas. Most cannot be bothered learning and applying-EVERY utterance from God--Jesus taught--Man MUST live by all of them, not if they want to, they MUST.--The learning never stops. Once ones are tickled with the lie--you are saved or born again they don't bother to learn every utterance--They think they have won already. Run from teachers like that. Jesus real teachers on earth make 100% sure every utterance is learned and discussed over and over, year after year, it NEVER stops. All can see if they have those teachers.
And I suppose that you don't ever cherry pick from the Bible or torture its plain meaning in the name of consistency? And you never, ever, have inferred a little too much from any passage? And you seriously think your teachers are different than any other just because you agree with them?

Theology is a faux discipline. It is a bogus field of endeavor. You are no better or worse at it than anyone else. Like the Cheshire Cat, your words mean whatever you say they mean -- no more and no less.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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And I suppose that you don't ever cherry pick from the Bible or torture its plain meaning in the name of consistency? And you never, ever, have inferred a little too much from any passage? And you seriously think your teachers are different than any other just because you agree with them?

Theology is a faux discipline. It is a bogus field of endeavor. You are no better or worse at it than anyone else. Like the Cheshire Cat, your words mean whatever you say they mean -- no more and no less.

There is 0 doubt in all creation--Jesus started-ONE single religion,It died out back then when all were getting murdered--These last days it came back and corrected the false teachings and errors so now Daniel 12:4 can be a bible truth. Jesus is with one religion on earth. He promised to appoint his teachers when he sat on the throne here-Rev 6--- The faithful and discreet slave, who give food( spiritual) at the proper time. Jesus said he would appoint them over all of his belongings.
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: at the foothills of the cascades, washington
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-EVERY utterance from God--Jesus taught--Man MUST live by all of them, not if they want to, they MUST.--.
So here you say you must follow EVERY UTTERANCE FROM GOD....that you must live by ALL OF THEM.

BUT WAIT!!! When I asked in an earlier post if you still followed an old law in the Bible such as the SABBATH, this was your answer:

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When Jesus brought the new covenant=LOVE--the Mosaic law was abolished--Yet the bible teaches it didn't fully die but that Law would be written on ones heart.
So here you are contradicting yourself. Are you too blind to see this?
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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Furthermore, I implore you to study this scripture in your bible Kjw if you are serious about following it.

Until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:18-19

so here you see, if you are really following "God's word", then you should not cherry pick scriptures or do away with ones you think are old mosaic law, now should you?
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Old 12-31-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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So here you say you must follow EVERY UTTERANCE FROM GOD....that you must live by ALL OF THEM.

BUT WAIT!!! When I asked in an earlier post if you still followed an old law in the Bible such as the SABBATH, this was your answer:



So here you are contradicting yourself. Are you too blind to see this?

Yes the Mosaic law was done away with. Certain aspects of it, like not stoning one to death for certain sins, etc.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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Yes the Mosaic law was done away with. Certain aspects of it, like not stoning one to death for certain sins, etc.
You are contradicting yourself then. Did you read Matthew 5:18-19? Curious how you will try and interpret your way out of that one lol
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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You are contradicting yourself then. Did you read Matthew 5:18-19? Curious how you will try and interpret your way out of that one lol


Actually, Law is written on the heart in the Love of the new covenant. It still doesn't take away from the fact--The Mosaic laws were done away with by the bringing of the new covenant. The whole purpose to bring a new covenant was because the old one was not working. No one could stand under Mosaic law--Its why the Israelites fell over And over, finally being so blinded, they sent their own Messiah to his death, Thus God cut them off of being his chosen ones( Matt 23:37-39)--Judaism is under Mosaic law. We are not.
In Matt as you showed is probably speaking about The Law of Jesus mentioned at Galations 6:2--Not the Mosaic Law.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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Actually, Law is written on the heart in the Love of the new covenant. It still doesn't take away from the fact--The Mosaic laws were done away with by the bringing of the new covenant. The whole purpose to bring a new covenant was because the old one was not working. No one could stand under Mosaic law--Its why the Israelites fell over And over, finally being so blinded, they sent their own Messiah to his death, Thus God cut them off of being his chosen ones( Matt 23:37-39)--Judaism is under Mosaic law. We are not.
In Matt as you showed is probably speaking about The Law of Jesus mentioned at Galations 6:2--Not the Mosaic Law.
Matthew 23:37-39 doesn't mention anything about the Mosaic Law being done away with. You can't show me any scripture that says "THE OLD MOSAIC LAW, SHALL BE DONE AWAY WITH" can you? stop trying to twist and interpret scriptures to YOUR own liking.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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Actually, Law is written on the heart in the Love of the new covenant. It still doesn't take away from the fact--The Mosaic laws were done away with by the bringing of the new covenant. The whole purpose to bring a new covenant was because the old one was not working. No one could stand under Mosaic law--Its why the Israelites fell over And over, finally being so blinded, they sent their own Messiah to his death, Thus God cut them off of being his chosen ones( Matt 23:37-39)--Judaism is under Mosaic law. We are not.
In Matt as you showed is probably speaking about The Law of Jesus mentioned at Galations 6:2--Not the Mosaic Law.
Until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:18-19

How are you interpreting that this verse in Matthew is ONLY correlating to "The law of jesus mentioned in Galations" and not the all of God's word?
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