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Old 05-26-2018, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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As you mature you might stop believing in fairy tales from 2000 years ago. Who knows?
Isn’t it interesting that so many adults still believe in God, despite some calling it “fairy tales”? Maybe there’s something to this God thing.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Isn’t it interesting that so many adults still believe in God, despite some calling it “fairy tales”? Maybe there’s something to this God thing.
Isn't it interesting that so many adults in the world don't believe in god. Maybe there's nothing to this god thing.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Isn’t it interesting that so many adults still believe in God, despite some calling it “fairy tales”? Maybe there’s something to this God thing.
What there is to this God -thing is Indoctrination. Until the Internet gave dissent a voice, there was hardly any. Now people are wising -up. I believe that before very long the appeal to numbers will be dropped, because it won't suit the believer -side anymore.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Isn't it interesting that so many adults in the world don't believe in god. Maybe there's nothing to this god thing.
According to a survey by World Religions Religion Statistics Geography Church Statistics, people who are "secular, non-religious, agnostics and atheists" account for about 14% of the world’s population.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-believe-in-God-2
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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What there is to this God -thing is Indoctrination. Until the Internet gave dissent a voice, there was hardly any. Now people are wising -up. I believe that before very long the appeal to numbers will be dropped, because it won't suit the believer -side anymore.
I don’t see the scales tipping in your favor, ever. JMO.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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Say, you are driving in a small and very lonely street at 2:00 AM.
There looks to be no other car on the road.

And you come to a stop sign.

Most likely, you WILL make a stop.

Why?

Because you know that if a cop is hiding and monitoring you, you WILL get a ticket for not stopping.

Or if an accident happens because you didn't make a stop, they WILL go after your insurance, and perhaps sue you too.

So respect of law, is there. And many people take pride in abiding by it.

But fear DOES play a role. That's human nature!

If there is no fear of traffic ticket and no fear of hitting another car or a person with no consequences, many people will NOT make a stop at that traffic sign even in midday rush hour.

Why third world countries are third world countries? Corruption and weak enforcement of law. No fear.
I think fear plays a much greater role in these things.

I think 'the powers that be' that were around long ago, recognized this and realized they needed some kind of creation story/ religion, so people would fear doing bad, mainly due to the consequences.

I cant think of the guy who said this, but it was someone high up in the catholic church long ago, they said something along the lines of "this myth of God has been very good for us"...and they were right, it has been EXTREMELY good for the church, and society as a whole really.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Isn’t it interesting that so many adults still believe in God, despite some calling it “fairy tales”? Maybe there’s something to this God thing.
Yes, it's called teleological thinking. It's were the brain thinks there is a purpose to an action even when there isn't. You hear a sound in a bush and react as if it may be a snake, but it turns out to be just a little fluffy bunny rabbit. But if it had been a big bad snake, you would have been ready to react.

That's why there are so many religions. People instinctively believe there must be a purpose, and over time invented gods to explain things like thunder, or floods.

So the thing to this gods (it should be plural) thing is your brain making an error (as it is prone to do).

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Old 05-26-2018, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Germany
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According to a survey by World Religions Religion Statistics Geography Church Statistics, people who are "secular, non-religious, agnostics and atheists" account for about 14% of the world’s population.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-believe-in-God-2
According to another survey, religion is strongest where 1) education standards are low, and 2) living standards are low.

Religion loves misery, it seems.
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Old 05-26-2018, 11:11 AM
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Yes, it's called teleological thinking. It's were the brain thinks there is a purpose to an action even when there isn't. You hear a sound in a bush and react as if it may be a snake, but it turns out to be just a little fluffy bunny rabbit. But if it had been a bid bag snake, you would have been ready to react.

That's why there are so many religions. People instinctively believe there must be a purpose, and over time invented gods to explain things like thunder, or floods.

So the thing to this gods (it should be plural) thing is your brain making an error (as it is prone to do).
And lets not forget that the error had/has and evolutionary purpose - you would be better off making such an error with your example otherwise you might be dead. Better to be wrong and alive than right and dead - evolution does not give a crap about 'truth' but survival. And this is also why such deceptions of religions can be useful or even beneficial despite being absolutely WRONG!

The funny thing is that these deceptions of reality are instantiated within our evolutionary history/psychology such that when they are removed there can by psychological/heath problems with ones ability to get along in the world without them. And then religionists use this as some sort of justification for the religion itself. It really is not that hard to see unless you are a religionist.

So the challenge for the new world of facts an reality is to jettison the religious structures that are associated with the core principles of these religions and have a secular humanistic outlook and foundation set in its place. Unfortunately some jettison their religion far to soon before something useful based upon reality and core principles can replace it - particularly with young people with broken family structures. We are still in a transition phase in history.

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Old 05-26-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Germany
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This classic case applies to athiests also very well right?? Faithfully believing there is no God, even though you dont have any evidence to prove it.
Oh those straw man atheists.

I have plenty of evidence to demonstrate gods do not exist. Faith has nothing to do with it.
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