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Old 05-30-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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No disrespect, but I don't believe for a second that it's just a case of providing enough proof. If you haven't seen enough so far, nothing I can provide will do it. You are too closed-minded.
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Like are you too closed-minded to see the evidence that leads us to believe that gods do not exist?
Actually, it is our open mindedness that brought us to critically examine the facts and draw our conclusions. For example, the earth could not have come into existence by two different mechanisms at two different times. Geological evidence is all right there in our faces, so why would anyone even consider magic as the mechanism? And speaking it or breathing it into existence is magic.
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Old 05-31-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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While I, in no way, am saying (or feeling) that you NEED to believe in God, it's starting to seem that you are needing me not to.
Wow. Just gave you a rep. That is really profound when you think of it, and it is so true. They need you to not believe just as much as some Christians need you to believe. Both are just a turnoff.
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Old 05-31-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Wow. Just gave you a rep. That is really profound when you think of it, and it is so true. They need you to not believe just as much as some Christians need you to believe. Both are just a turnoff.
No. I do not care if believers believe what they do. I rather enjoy the cultural richness enhanced by religions.

What I do want is people to stop interfering in other peoples lives because they can not recognize a bad argument when they see one, or are so deluded they need to lie to themselves.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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Actually, it is our open mindedness that brought us to critically examine the facts and draw our conclusions. For example, the earth could not have come into existence by two different mechanisms at two different times. Geological evidence is all right there in our faces, so why would anyone even consider magic as the mechanism? And speaking it or breathing it into existence is magic.
You fail to consider the most basic questions of origins. Where did the mass, space, etc come from? How did it all start? What triggered it? What existed prior?
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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You fail to consider the most basic questions of origins. Where did the mass, space, etc come from? How did it all start? What triggered it? What existed prior?
The same can be asked of your god and what/how it used to create everything from no thing.

BFun, would you agree at some point there was just god and no thing else?


What ya think BFun?

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Old 05-31-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You fail to consider the most basic questions of origins. Where did the mass, space, etc come from? How did it all start? What triggered it? What existed prior?
We've done that already. It IS amazing how we fail to consider things we have already considered.

What you fail to consider is just how improbable your god actually is.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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We've done that already. It IS amazing how we fail to consider things we have already considered.

What you fail to consider is just how improbable your god actually is.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Do not blame me, even your creationists admit it. Using maths, too. Bad maths that ignores things like chemistry, but still maths.

I find it quiet funny when they straw man evolution using proteins, they do not realize they have just argued against their god.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Do not blame me, even your creationists admit it. Using maths, too. Bad maths that ignores things like chemistry, but still maths.

I find it quiet funny when they straw man evolution using proteins, they do not realize they have just argued against their god.
ok? You're bringing up arguments I'm not making.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Germany
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ok? You're bringing up arguments I'm not making.
I know. I was just pointing out even the creationists are not on your side, even though they think they are.
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