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Yeah, maybe, but you know the types I'm talking about: the culture vultures. At best they misrepresent native cultures which, in turn, continues myths and stereotypes. At worst they get people killed like that moron who was running sweats and three people died.
I'm certainly not trying to suggest that people not find out their heritage or celebrate it.
Not laughing at you laughing with you. We get a lot of wannabe tourists coming through the Dakotas. Easy to spot they are the ones who buy up all of the "Made in China" NA Artifacts sold at the Stamart Truck Stops.
Truth is those of us who do not live the Red Road can only be guests on it and as guests we should, enjoy it, respect it and understand we can never be part of it as we can always step off of it if we desire to. An NA who lives the Red Road, is the Red Road and neither can nor would desire to leave it.
There is no problem with being a guest on the Red road, but those of us who travel it as guests need to always remember we are guests and to respect it is our host's home.
Each of us needs to know our own heritage and honor that. We should keep in mind other heritages each have their own beauty and wonderful things to offer. We can enjoy each other's heritages, but we also need to be respectful in how we enjoy them. Enjoy not mimic is a good way to enjoy each other's company and share each others food, stories, laughs and sometimes sadness. Reach out a hand of friendship, not a hand that grabs to own.
I love the NA life and am often a guest on the Red road. but I am Lipkas (Tatar, Mongol) and have my own road I can not wander far from and become part of the Red road.
I use Taos in my classes on the impact design has on housing value. Some places it is more than others.......Pueblo style houses sell for more than their worth, and brick pitched roof ranches don't sell worth a da**.
And it is always fun to see a new resident there......seems they are always from Ohio or somewhere in that part of the country.....kinda like a Tsa La Ghi I know..............first thing the newly arrived woman does in Taos is buy a bunch of silver and turquoise jewelry.....and a book to tell them if it is Navajo, Picuris, Nambe, Hopi or Zuni. Then they have to know how to tell if it is old pawn or something from the Navajo factory in Farmington. When they get enough to wear (takes about 3, maybe 4 days) they get a couple of velvet Navajo blouses, a crepe (squaw) dress, and start wearing sandals. the guys start wearing jeans and fringed shirts, let their hair grow out and braid it pueblo style, get an old pickup and a dog to ride in the back.
You can spot those folks from four blocks away......instant experts trying to finagle the Taos Pueblo into letting them go up to Blue Lake.
I don't think that happens so much in Comanche or Kiowa country......those guys are just way too intimidating........I've heard they aren't even civilized like real people such as the Muscogee, Creek or Cherokee.............And the Chickasaw are even MORE civilized......more than half the casinos in Oklahoma are owned by them...........so they've figured out how to scalp the white man and get away with it.............
I have a tendency to agree with you Goodpasture but I was always told that we (Tsalagi) were the most civilized ones of the bunch and Comanches are way too serious..... And as far as tourists and wannabes, I think sometimes they're a bunch of u-na-s-ti-s-gi yuh-wee-yaw. But then again that's just what I've been told..
I have a tendency to agree with you Goodpasture but I was always told that we (Tsalagi) were the most civilized ones of the bunch and Comanches are way too serious..... And as far as tourists and wannabes, I think sometimes they're a bunch of u-na-s-ti-s-gi yuh-wee-yaw. But then again that's just what I've been told..
Continuing with funny incidents. Both my wife and myself often dress in Sunnah (Traditional Muslim) clothing for religious reasons. Such as when going to the Mosque or on Fridays our Jummat day. The Sunnah clothing has a very strong resemblance to Traditional Tsalagi and is vaguely similar to Lakotah. So we often get asked as to what tribe we are from. By tourists. (the NA know it is not NA clothing)
Another favorite question my wife gets asked is "Where do you get such Beautiful Indian clothing from?" Have to love the look on the faces when she answers Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Oddly my wife is Cheyenne and on occasion she does wear traditional, but never gets asked any questions when she is wearing real NA.
One of my many loves is the love for the Native American Philosophy and way of living. When I was very little (before I could read) I would take an encyclopedia and open it up to a page where I found numerous tribes and costumes and I would study it for hours with pure fascination. When I was six I asked for a barbie (my first one) and requested that she be the black version with long black hair. I got it from Christmas that year and to me that doll symbolized the native way and I cherished it.
I have a tendency to agree with you Goodpasture but I was always told that we (Tsalagi) were the most civilized ones of the bunch and Comanches are way too serious..... And as far as tourists and wannabes, I think sometimes they're a bunch of u-na-s-ti-s-gi yuh-wee-yaw. But then again that's just what I've been told..
That means bunch of lunatics gives you a "*" yawn? . No, Comanches are not serious, they are just covering themselves for the guests.
I've mentioned this before, as have numerous others. But it is worth remembering that most of us that have a NDN "heritage" like humor. We tend to denigrate those we respect. A hunter that brings in a deer at a time of famine might be chided about his luck as a rabbit hunter.........I recall a story by a western author (Jack Schaeffer) that told a story about a warrior who counted coup by leaping off his horse and striking the enemy. After another warrior told of the courage of this warrior, the warrior being honored told the council that he did not, in fact, leap off the horse. It just happened that the horse stumbled and threw him on the enemy. The council decided that he was, in fact, so courageous and wise that he had selected a war horse that knew when to throw him off.....the story of courage was saved and repeated in council.......not as an example of courage, but as an example of luck. (For those of you interested, the story is told in The Keane Land, by Jack Schaeffer)
Several years ago I knew a man, a Comanche elder, who was the last European code talker of WWII and an elegant and honored warrior. You could tell when he began to "stretch" the truth cause his eyes would twinkle........you could see that way back behind his serious talk there was fun and humor. Even when he stretched the truth what he had to say had wisdom.......ever want to have a tape recorder? That is the way I always felt when he would speak. A Comanche on here knew him well and recalls many such times. But in all things serious, he would laugh.
When we are teasing each other we are giving each other respect and acknowledging a brotherhood of peers. If a person came on here and began telling us about our selves, or about our people, or otherwise "played to the audience" we might deride him, but there would be no humor and we would not respect him and there would be no brotherhood.
When I deride the Kiowa, or the Comanche, or the Muscogee, or the Chickasaw, or almost anyone else, it is out of respect. I may have enemies, but I respect them as a people and as warriors. It is the pretender that I have no use for, and when I deride them, there is no humor to give us a sense of brotherhood.....there is only disdain.
I've mentioned this before, as have numerous others. But it is worth remembering that most of us that have a NDN "heritage" like humor. We tend to denigrate those we respect. A hunter that brings in a deer at a time of famine might be chided about his luck as a rabbit hunter.........I recall a story by a western author (Jack Schaeffer) that told a story about a warrior who counted coup by leaping off his horse and striking the enemy. After another warrior told of the courage of this warrior, the warrior being honored told the council that he did not, in fact, leap off the horse. It just happened that the horse stumbled and threw him on the enemy. The council decided that he was, in fact, so courageous and wise that he had selected a war horse that knew when to throw him off.....the story of courage was saved and repeated in council.......not as an example of courage, but as an example of luck. (For those of you interested, the story is told in The Keane Land, by Jack Schaeffer)
Several years ago I knew a man, a Comanche elder, who was the last European code talker of WWII and an elegant and honored warrior. You could tell when he began to "stretch" the truth cause his eyes would twinkle........you could see that way back behind his serious talk there was fun and humor. Even when he stretched the truth what he had to say had wisdom.......ever want to have a tape recorder? That is the way I always felt when he would speak. A Comanche on here knew him well and recalls many such times. But in all things serious, he would laugh.
When we are teasing each other we are giving each other respect and acknowledging a brotherhood of peers. If a person came on here and began telling us about our selves, or about our people, or otherwise "played to the audience" we might deride him, but there would be no humor and we would not respect him and there would be no brotherhood.
When I deride the Kiowa, or the Comanche, or the Muscogee, or the Chickasaw, or almost anyone else, it is out of respect. I may have enemies, but I respect them as a people and as warriors. It is the pretender that I have no use for, and when I deride them, there is no humor to give us a sense of brotherhood.....there is only disdain.
Well explained GP and it never hurts to repeat it. Non-NDNS often don't get it. I would only add the recommendation that folks who are "outside of the people" not engage in our form of humor unless they are well-known amongst the people as it would not be taken well. That's just common sense or at least should be.
As to grandpa, I couldn't say it better myself. I miss him so much.
BTW, I personally recommend deriding Kiowas early and often. Bring it Red Bird!!!! Aayyyee.
I will have a new love in my life on Saturday The one with white from head to nose on the right....YEA!!!!!!!! Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you GP your forgiveness means alot to me, I respect you very much. Good day
I will have a new love in my life on Saturday The one with white from head to nose on the right....YEA!!!!!!!! Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy for you..........and those are gorgeous pups. I am probably the easiest touch when it comes to dogs..........cats I am not all that fond of, but dogs touch me very deeply. I don't know if I've mentioned it before (probably, I tend to be a bit garrulous) but we have found homes over the past year for 7 dogs, and are now up to 8 living with us. We have a Great Pyr/Border Collie cross, a Collie/German Shepherd cross, a deaf Australian Shepherd, four Jack Russell Terrorists, and we recently acquired a Yorkie stray. I felt so bad for the Yorkie...was going to relocate her after cleaning her up (she was matted, ticky, flea ridden and hungry), but just couldn't bring myself to. When you would reach to pet her, she would cower like she expected to get hit, if you raise your voice at all to her she cowers. But she has been my shadow ever since. She is always within two or three feet and sleeps beside me every night.
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I respect you very much. Good day
You honor me........thank you
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. No, Comanches are not serious, they are just covering themselves for the guests.
. Be happy in yours, I am happy in mine 
The one with white from head to nose on the right....YEA!!!!!!!! Hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!