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Yes. It really is that simple. Anyone who proclaims that I am the one true god, lord of all and savior to all who believe shall have eternal bliss but those who do not accept me shall perish from my glorious love and be banished to an eternity of insufferable torture.
I didn't say it, God did in His Word. All I can say is that God inspired and endorsed only one book and it's the only book we ever need in this life. The rest is inconsequential.
I appologize if i am misunderstanding your thread, the way i am reading it, is that there is nothing more than John 3:16. To which i reply, then why so many more verses, if that one verse covers it all.
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Do you not agree that without accepting Christ Jesus that nothing else matters? Nothing else that you and the others argue about such as being perfect matters at all if a person has not received salvation?
I agree that Accepting Christ is much more than the modern teaching out there which can dilute the primary definition of living Christ. Which to me is the truth of acceptance.
To accept is to live, keep, and be the teachings. Not just acknowledge the existence of the teachings.
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It's the first and most important step. Nothing else can happen without it, including going to heaven.
If we expand to other teachings of Jesus, He said the kingdom of Heaven is at Hand, and that it is within us. It is a state of being not just a destination.
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What happens in a person's life after accepting Christ is up to that person because we all have a personal relationship with Jesus and only He knows the heart.
Wouldn't the person also know the condition of their heart? If we are true to living the teachings then we should know. That sounds nit picking, but if we really look into our hearts, we would know the inheritance we are to receive based on the condition of our belief in a given moment.
This is our classroom, and we know if we apply ourselves to the task at hand, we will pass our tests and overcome our weaknesses through living the teachings of our Lord.
Simplicity is found in knowing the formula that Jesus gave us, some through direct command, and some through parables.
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If it's true salvation, then they will have the hunger for God's Word and the desire to grow spiritually and as a Christian.
Yes. It really is that simple. Anyone who proclaims that I am the one true god, lord of all and savior to all who believe shall have eternal bliss but those who do not accept me shall perish from my glorious love and be banished to an eternity of insufferable torture.
I didn't say it, God did in His Word. All I can say is that God inspired and endorsed only one book and it's the only book we ever need in this life. The rest is inconsequential.
Do you not agree that without accepting Christ Jesus that nothing else matters? Nothing else that you and the others argue about such as being perfect matters at all if a person has not received salvation?
It's the first and most important step. Nothing else can happen without it, including going to heaven. What happens in a person's life after accepting Christ is up to that person because we all have a personal relationship with Jesus and only He knows the heart. If it's true salvation, then they will have the hunger for God's Word and the desire to grow spiritually and as a Christian.
When you study the history of how the Bible was compiled - essentially this extremely enlightened man walked the Middle East and many sects emerged from his teachings thinking they had the one true understanding.
There was massive political, social, and physical battle in determining which beliefs were going to be deemed the "true" ones for a formal church.
Centuries later, by vote of men with extraordinary self interest in power and control, they chose which books would be selected and which would not for inclusion. They took out key teachings (such as reincarnation) that Christ clearly espoused for fear that if people knew they had more than one life to perfect themselves, they would not adhere themselves as strongly to the church.
So, again, how do you put so much trust in a book compiled by men, even if the original texts were inspired by God or simply compiled by primitive minds in a primitive culture attempting to explain a profound mastery of physics?
I'll say again, it is simple, but not in the way you believe it to be.
Yes. It really is that simple. Anyone who proclaims that I am the one true god, lord of all and savior to all who believe shall have eternal bliss but those who do not accept me shall perish from my glorious love and be banished to an eternity of insufferable torture.
I can see that this is going the way everything else does at CD...south.
Accept it or reject it, the Bible is God's Word. I'm going to quote something I said in another thread that seems to apply here also:
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There are certain truths in Christianity that if denied are revealing that one is not a Christian. If one does not believe that the Bible is God's Word, then they do not believe in His Son Jesus Christ of the Bible. Anyone can claim a "jesus", but denial that the Bible is the Word of God is all telling that one is not following THE Jesus of the Bible.
It's as simple as that. The best way to protect yourself from false prophets is to read God's Word and follow it to the letter. God is not a fragment, He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end and PRAYER is the way to walk with God and reading the Bible is the way to remain in His will.
And you are responding the same way most literalist Christians do.
Rather than engage in a thoughtful conversation and exchange of ideas or at least answering legitimate questions, you started a thread to tell people what they should think and are now frustrated that they have different perspectives.
The Bible did not exist when Jesus walked the earth. It didn't exist for hundreds of years afterward. What, then, did he tell people of his time to follow?
Was it a book? Did he say "Stick around for a few hundred years. It'll all make sense in this best selling book I've got coming out."
Or, perhaps, did he teach people how to harness the wisdom that resides within themselves?
Unable to do that or grasp it, they tried to capture it in words that fell short.
To simply make a claim that "the Bible is God's Word" and dismiss everyone is not enough. To banish anyone from following Christ for not believing a book written, voted upon, and compiled by men is just flat out mistaken.
You need to think deeper about these issues and engage in discussion about them if you want people to adhere to your worldview. As it is, our doubts remain about the validity of your claim.
And you are responding the same way most literalist Christians do.
Rather than engage in a thoughtful conversation and exchange of ideas or at least answering legitimate questions, you started a thread to tell people what they should think and are now frustrated that they have different perspectives.
The Bible did not exist when Jesus walked the earth. It didn't exist for hundreds of years afterward. What, then, did he tell people of his time to follow?
Was it a book? Did he say "Stick around for a few hundred years. It'll all make sense in this best selling book I've got coming out."
Or, perhaps, did he teach people how to harness the wisdom that resides within themselves?
Unable to do that or grasp it, they tried to capture it in words that fell short.
To simply make a claim that "the Bible is God's Word" and dismiss everyone is not enough. To banish anyone from following Christ for not believing a book written, voted upon, and compiled by men is just flat out mistaken.
You need to think deeper about these issues and engage in discussion about them if you want people to adhere to your worldview. As it is, our doubts remain about the validity of your claim.
No, I started this thread to let people know that becoming a Christian is very simple, just as God intended it. You are the one that wants to complicate it and argue. My faith and knowledge of the truth is so strong that it irritates you. I'm sorry you don't have that but it is very obtainable for everyone. But you can't learn about the pitfalls of false teachings unless you read the Word of God, the Bible. There's a lamp post outside that said it would love to argue with you.
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