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Old 02-14-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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answer is very clearly no; what she can do is copy and paste links from websites and quote phrases containing physics and other scientific terms and pretend she understands what they mean.
she can't answer a question in her own words because she doesn't think. there isn't any understanding on anything to help her formulate a sentence with words that originated in her skull.

Official quote of the day on GOOGLE.com homepage.

"When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it."
- Bernard Bailey
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:25 PM
 
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Mat 5:44 , 45
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But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
HHe makes His sun rise".
"How" He does it is a real science question, but the OP is not interested in real science, but is only interested with making mockery of all that he does not understand, while being convinced that 'someone' else does understand, though he cannot demonstrate that they are right, for no one has and no one can.

Outside of the Word of God there is no credible witness to prove that the Word is not correct on the matter of the "fixed in its place" earth, and the sun, moon, and stars running their courses, "ruling the day and the night and the governing the seasons and the times".

Jos 10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Jos 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

The Day the Sun Stood Still--Joshua's Long Day ....Page 35
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The Day the Sun Stood Still--Joshua's Long Day


Article 1: THE LONG DAY OF JOSHUA
One of the evidences for the historicity of the long day recorded in Joshua 10:13 and reiterated in Habakkuk 3:11 lies in the large body of traditions from many parts of the world according to which there was a long day (or night, or evening, depending upon the location) at about the same time that Joshua lived...
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In the ancient Chinese writings there is a legend of a long day. The Incas of Peru and the Aztecs of Mexico have a like record, and there is a Babylonian and a Persian legend of a day that was miraculously extended. Another section of China contributes an account of the day that was miraculously prolonged, in the reign of Emperor Yeo.

Herodotus recounts that the priests of Egypt showed him their temple records, and that there he read a strange account of a day that was twice the natural length. Rimmer concludes this section with a lengthy quotation from the Polynesian account of this event.

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Old 02-14-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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Again, there is the REAL WORLD...and then there is the bible.

The two do not appear to coexist very well.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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look - all the ancient people knew the real deal and took the trouble to write it down

stop belittling their contributions with your fancy pancy modern science blah blah blah

even little babies know the entire universe revolves around them and not the other way around.
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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Other than Pat Robertson is there any human who might actually believes this anymore? I think we only had a small period when christians rejected the actual science from the previous thousand years and took up that position. I wonder if it was to just see how big a lie they could get away with.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Firstly: God's word is the "majority" voice of authority. He told us what He did in the creation week:
Earth was created as a "globe" of "the deep/water", in total darkness; with no heavens.
God said "Let there be light".....and the evening and the morning were one/echad "day".

It was the light brought into being that caused "morning/day". There was no "tilted/rotating/orbiting" earth making "day", but the light itself makes the day, in its course around the globe.

There was not only no sun, no moon, no stars at all when YHWH Elohym created the earth as a global mass of water of unknown [to us] size, but there were no heavens to put them in, until day 2 of creation week, for the heavens were not "stretched out" by the division of the waters of the created global mass, until day 2.

The light brought into being on day 1 was stretched out with the heavens, and continued its course around the earth as it was stretched out with the heavens; and so three more evenings and mornings passed their courses around the globe before YHWH ELophym made the sun, moon, and stars and set them in their paths, in the turning heavens.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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I guess there may be a few remaining after all.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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Not that statistics mean much, but could a few other dedicated Christians post a response here as to whether this loon-oid idea carries weight with many of you? I mean, where you are completely convinced that, physically, the entire universe rotates around the stationary Earth? You know; despite all the observations, mathematics and proven events (lunar landings, Mars Rover, Voyager's success and simple telescope observations over a few nights that show how things really work?)

The answers to that question, of course, are the stunningly accurate achievements by countries who have traditionally been very competitive, but who are not prone to sharing any technologies. Why is it that NASA, the Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Indians and JPL, as well as the Space One crew, have all successfully orbited satellites and placed explorers or men on other objects in the system? Have they ALL conspired together, successfully no less, to hide this "truth".

And if you believe this logic-less concept, the next question would be WHY, I wonder?

I mean, the "home for the delusional" is going to want to know how many new wings, rooms and beds they'll need in the immediate future. With caseloads of Prozac on order as well.

This is an extreme example of how a steadfast, unwavering but also blindly illiterate belief in an old fairytale getting gets so out of control that the childish believer concocts endless nonsense variables, interpretations and alterations of reality in order to sustain the fairytale over all common sense. Thus we have "days" in Genesis becoming tens of thousands of years long, but only temporarily; we have a flat earth, we have a geocentric universe model, we have a literal belief in Noah's Ark, and co-existing dinosaurs, and we have cool refracting crystals in place of a known hydrogen fusion reactor we call the sun.

Yikes! Good thing these people aren't in control, huh?

Interesting though. It'd make someone a fine PhD case study in delusional denialism.

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Old 02-15-2010, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Not that statistics mean much, but could a few other dedicated Christians post a response here as to whether this loon-oid idea carries weight with many of you?
I work for Christian organizations for almost 30 years - all stripes, and never ever heard geocentricity mentioned even once. It must be some kind of hyper literalist fringe group?
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:45 PM
 
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