Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
why are most christians so obstinate?.....martin luther said it best........."all the articles of our christian faith, which god has revealed to us in his word, are in presence of reason sheerly impossible, absurd, and false. Reason in no way contributes to faith. for reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things."...
The figurines were tested again. This time in 1997 by Neil Steede president of the Early Sites Research Society West, and Epigraphic Society. Together they both wanted to debunk the collection. And had a vested intrest in doing so. Yet the date returned for the dinosaur figurine was 1500 B.P. So they ignored the date returned. Just as they always do.
I wonder if you realize your belief comes from a believer in evolution who stated the El Toro figurines were ancient when he was in Mexico, but as soon as his plane landed in the states he stated they were fakes. Another case of a believe in evolution talking out of both sides of his mouth. And that statement was made in the 1950s. Wheres your scientific review that debunks the figurines? What, you can't find one done by your people in the last 60 years? Oh, what a surprise. Do you even understand where your information is coming from? Can you tell us what university actually did the review, or the time testing of the figurines? Can you tell us what scientists actually did the study? Or do you believe that we can assume they are fakes based on faith?LOL
You have already been told.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Konraden
Wait wait wait, holy ****ing hypocrisy.
You accept radiometric dating for clay figurines of dinosaurs, but reject it for everything else that states the Earth is older than 6000 years old?
And allow me to add the following. Skeptic information is mostly categorized under "Acámbaro figures"
You can't date an item directly. You will be dating the clay, not when the figurine was made.
You can date a fired ceramic directly. And that is by Thermoluminescent testing. The El Toro figurines are made of both fired ceramics, and stone. So it is not just clay. And the stone figurines, show all the evidence of weathered erosion. Do you really believe someone took the time to try and fake erosion?
You can date a fired ceramic directly. And that is by Thermoluminescent testing. The El Toro figurines are made of both fired ceramics, and stone. So it is not just clay. And the stone figurines, show all the evidence of weathered erosion. Do you really believe someone took the time to try and fake erosion?
My sources state otherwise. Did you even read them?
CH710.2: Acambaro dinosaur figurines
Figurines were found new. The figurines were entirely intact. The figurines were found in suspicious conditions, etc.
The only thing I have been told is B.S. Where is the scientific review that would prove your case?
Exactly....That is the only flavor the sites you favor have.... Pure unadulterated BS. How many times do you have to be shown that they have been tested, proven to be fakes. It seems they are no longer available for independent testing, even if there was an interest...I doubt that very many unbiased scientists are interested in wasting time and money on proven hoaxes.
Can you tell me how all this BS relates to the topic?
You can actually observe one species in the process of evolving into another and see the results of that evolution?!? When has that been done?
Without bothering to read this whole thread through before responding,does anyone who denies that evolution is provable and still ongoing ever wonder why antibiotics quit working on some bacteria and why we now have superbugs?
How about some of the evolution deniers investigate this and get back with the rest of us on why medical scientists are worried about this?
Or to simplify,WHY do antibiotics that worked 50 years ago no longer work as effective?Any clues at all?
It is. But let me predict that Campbell will either argue that, if it isn't true now, it will be in some prophecy - fulfilling time in the future, so he's still right, or he will simply make the same claim again somewhere else, hoping that no - one will remember.
You guys seem to be getting North America, and the USA confused. There are not six and a half million Jews living in the United States. There are six and a half million Jews living in North America. I am speaking of a single country, not a continent. And as of 2006 the number of Jewish people living in Israel for the first time surpassed the number of Jews that would be found living in the United States. And future projections show us that because of the younger Jewish population found in Israel, we can expect to see the vast majority of Jewish people living in Israel between the years 2030 and 2040. These projections, are based on demographics, yet would agree with the Biblical timeline.
For Pete's sake, Campbell...Get back on topic, that is if you even know what it is. Tell us why you dismiss evolution in favour of ID.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
You will be dating the clay, not when the figurine was made.
