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California was no good for us. Too expensive, too much traffic, too many people, too much trash and pollution, to many orange fake'n'bake people. And the areas along the coast like San Fran and San Diego - too many tourists. Sort of the same reasons we didn't like Seattle, either. Seattle was way worse, though... road rage is bad there. And that area was just no intended for that many people.
I'm sure Montana or Idaho... somewhere around there you could find your house on your mountain. Or Eastern Oregon perhaps... northeastern Oregon. I've heard northern Idaho is really beautiful. Lots of little under the radar artists colonies up in there I've been told.
Money is no object here though so that should not be a problem in this thread.
Traffic is not everywhere.
People are everywhere.
Pollution? CA is one of the cleanest air ciites with very little trash.
Money is no object here though so that should not be a problem in this thread.
Traffic is not everywhere.
People are everywhere.
Pollution? CA is one of the cleanest air ciites with very little trash.
I forgot the money is no object thing... but we don't agree on the other three issues.
In Eugene where I live you can drive from one end of town to the other in 15 minutes. Seriously. 15 minutes. With traffic, 20. I know because we live on one end of town and hubby works on the other end, so he does the drive every day. When he gets off a 5pm - Eugene's "rush hour" - he's home in 20 minutes. LOVE it!
Yes people are everywhere but in Oregon there are fewer of them, which we love. We do not like crowds and too many people.
Do you see lichen on the trees in the city in California? I know you might in the woods, mountains, along the coast away from cities maybe. Seeing lichen on the trees is a sign of clean air. Let me be more specific actually - seeing healthy plumped up lichen is a sign of clean good air. If it's dried up and crunchy that is not a good sign. If it's nonexistant that is not a good sign. In Eugene and other Oregon cities you will see lots of lichen. Also truffles, mushrooms, fern, etc. But lichen is a good indicator of good clean air. The better the air quality the more fresh, soft, plump lichen you will see.
I forgot the money is no object thing... but we don't agree on the other three issues.
In Eugene where I live you can drive from one end of town to the other in 15 minutes. Seriously. 15 minutes. With traffic, 20. I know because we live on one end of town and hubby works on the other end, so he does the drive every day. When he gets off a 5pm - Eugene's "rush hour" - he's home in 20 minutes. LOVE it!
Yes people are everywhere but in Oregon there are fewer of them, which we love. We do not like crowds and too many people.
Do you see lichen on the trees in the city in California? I know you might in the woods, mountains, along the coast away from cities maybe. Seeing lichen on the trees is a sign of clean air. Let me be more specific actually - seeing healthy plumped up lichen is a sign of clean good air. If it's dried up and crunchy that is not a good sign. If it's nonexistant that is not a good sign. In Eugene and other Oregon cities you will see lots of lichen. Also truffles, mushrooms, fern, etc. But lichen is a good indicator of good clean air. The better the air quality the more fresh, soft, plump lichen you will see.
Having lived in Southern California for all of my life save the last 3 years, I know that Los Angeles/Long Beach/San Bernardino/Riverside consistently have had the dirtiest air in the nation. I believe they have thrown in Fresno and Bakersfield now as well.
To paraphrase ... I refuse to have a battle of common sense with an unarmed person.
San Jose is one of the cleanest air cities.
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With traffic, 20. I know because we live on one end of town and hubby works on the other end, so he does the drive every day. When he gets off a 5pm - Eugene's "rush hour" - he's home in 20 minutes. LOVE it!
