What is Rhode Island like? (live, educational, places)
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Hopefully I'm not leaving anything out. Guess what? After weighing all the pros and cons I still choose Rhode Island as my top destination among all these places.
That's just fantastic, If it all true...I'm envious of you.
Let's subtract the European countries, socialism wouldn't work for many, (a visit would be nice.)
Many millions of people love Florida... you hate it. You grew up there, so you certainly know more than I do about Florida. Allow me the same graces when speaking about RI.
The things that are important to "me"...Rhode Island falls woefully short on. Don't kid yourself, there are many people that can't wait to leave this state. There land locked, or still have parents and children to think about.
Now...I have spent time in many states too, many have... I don't judge a state by the minuscule percent of the population that I actually meet, people are the same everywhere, some are good, educated, interesting, and some are less so.
I judge by the laws, the infrastructure, the yearly weather, and what I can see, feel and taste.
I like what I like, you like what you like. For my money, RI is, in many areas, less that it should be.
That's just fantastic, If it all true...I'm envious of you.
Let's subtract the European countries, socialism wouldn't work for many, (a visit would be nice.)
Many millions of people love Florida... you hate it. You grew up there, so you certainly know more than I do about Florida. Allow me the same graces when speaking about RI.
But it's not the same thing is it? I've spent eight years in Rhode Island, how much time have you spent in Florida?
That's just fantastic, If it all true...I'm envious of you.
Let's subtract the European countries, socialism wouldn't work for many, (a visit would be nice.)
I like what I like, you like what you like. For my money, RI is, in many areas, less that it should be.
That's a sensible statement. Just stop assuming everyone will like what you like. If you post the same thing again and again and again it sounds more like you're on a soapbox than just stating your humble opinion.
As for "socialism", let's get rid of the police, firefighters, libraries, post offices and social security (and a lot more!) if you truly do not want to live in a country that has any aspects of "socialism".
But it's not the same thing is it? I've spent eight years in Rhode Island, how much time have you spent in Florida?
I didn't say I liked or enjoyed Florida, that's all I said, was millions "do" enjoy Florida, and "you" should know better than I about living in Florida. I've stayed in Florida for what amounts to maybe a total of 60 days. It certainly needs more investigation on my part.
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Just stop assuming everyone will like what you like. If you post the same thing again and again and again it sounds more like you're on a soapbox than just stating your humble opinion.
I don't assume everyone likes what I like, If you like the "glaring weaknesses" of RI thats fine.
In the past I have also pointed out some good points of RI...beaches, food, the people, etc.
I my opinion...this state has failed it's population, that's what I think, and many agree with me, I will continue to point out this states weaknesses, no soap box needed.
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As for "socialism", let's get rid of the police, firefighters, libraries, post offices and social security (and a lot more!) if you truly do not want to live in a country that has any aspects of "socialism".
We're not going to get into this again are we? You know exactly what I mean by Socialism and you know it. You would disappoint me if you didn't.
Should I have said European style of Socialism? Maybe...what's interesting is, the problems that Europe is having at present is very similar to what RI is going through.
I think you and I have "gone at it" enough to know we're not going to agree on politics.
I hope we're not going to debate what I call crumbling infrastructure and what you call crumbling Infrastructure.
I didn't say I liked or enjoyed Florida, that's all I said, was millions "do" enjoy Florida, and "you" should know better than I about living in Florida. I've stayed in Florida for what amounts to maybe a total of 60 days. It certainly needs more investigation on my part.
I don't assume everyone likes what I like, If you like the "glaring weaknesses" of RI thats fine.
In the past I have also pointed out some good points of RI...beaches, food, the people, etc.
I my opinion...this state has failed it's population, that's what I think, and many agree with me, I will continue to point out this states weaknesses, no soap box needed.
We're not going to get into this again are we? You know exactly what I mean by Socialism and you know it. You would disappoint me if you didn't.
Should I have said European style of Socialism? Maybe...what's interesting is, the problems that Europe is having at present is very similar to what RI is going through.
I think you and I have "gone at it" enough to know we're not going to agree on politics.
I hope we're not going to debate what I call crumbling infrastructure and what you call crumbling Infrastructure.
The United States has a ton of crumbling infrastructure, whilst the "Socialist" European countries you decry, by and large, have fantastic infrastructure. So your argument's a little muddled maybe.
Of course, this thread's about to be deleted again for being off topic anyway.
The United States has a ton of crumbling infrastructure, whilst the "Socialist" European countries you decry, by and large, have fantastic infrastructure. So your argument's a little muddled maybe.
For the sake of argument, let's say basically your correct, some Socialist European Countries have nice infrastructure, lets also say these same countries make decisions, in reference to there infrastructure, that are efficient and fiscally sound. From these decisions they receive what they paid for, quality, clean, well built roads, bridges, parks, and buildings etc. Correct?
What happened in RI?... Why is this state such an infrastructure disaster.
I'll tell you...poor decisions. It has to be...there can be no other reason. "Union" owned politicians controlling all aspects of the bids and "manpower" hiring. The more manpower you hire, the more votes you own for life, and the more dues you collect. It's Government gone wrong.
It's certainly not enough money, don't even think that. RI spends more on infrastructure than any state in the country per capita.
some see it one way...some see it another way.
By the way..as to this thread, your right, we're on a short leash.
I'm wondering why people are criticized or insulted for pointing out this state's weaknesses on this forum whether it is the quality of the people who live here, the infrastructure, the government or what have you.
It seems there are three stock responses to such posts:
1) The person is considered to be a negative individual with a gripe, even if they posted positive aspects as well!
2) The person is told they should just pack up and leave if they don't like it here. (We are not Gypsies! We all have the freedom to leave but it is rarely as simple as that)
3) "it's the same or worse someplace else". (Highly subjective)
The topic of the thread is "what is Rhode Island like"
Well, these are people's experiences of what Rhode Island is like for them and they don't all read like a
brochure from the department of tourism! Why can't people handle that?
Part of the appeal of the internet (for me) is the fact that you can get real opinions on things from restaurants on Yelp, contractors on Angie's list, books on Amazon and places to live here on City-Data.
How useless would this be if all of these only listed positive opinions? People read them, judge the good and the bad and make up their own mind.
I'm wondering why people are criticized or insulted for pointing out this state's weaknesses on this forum whether it is the quality of the people who live here, the infrastructure, the government or what have you.
It seems there are three stock responses to such posts:
1) The person is considered to be a negative individual with a gripe, even if they posted positive aspects as well!
2) The person is told they should just pack up and leave if they don't like it here. (We are not Gypsies! We all have the freedom to leave but it is rarely as simple as that)
3) "it's the same or worse someplace else". (Highly subjective)
The topic of the thread is "what is Rhode Island like"
Well, these are people's experiences of what Rhode Island is like for them and they don't all read like a
brochure from the department of tourism! Why can't people handle that?
Part of the appeal of the internet (for me) is the fact that you can get real opinions on things from restaurants on Yelp, contractors on Angie's list, books on Amazon and places to live here on City-Data.
How useless would this be if all of these only listed positive opinions? People read them, judge the good and the bad and make up their own mind.
I really resisted posting on this thread, but you gave me an opportunity I couldn't resist.
I completely disagree with you about the rudeness issue. I don't find RIers to hold any particular card with respect to rudeness. In fact, I think most people I interact with from RI are fine. If there's any issue that you're seeing, it might have to do with incredibly high rates of unemployment. People are stressed everywhere, including in MA. We are - in fact - in the throes of a depression for those who are long-term unemployed. So, I'd suggest a little empathy.
Rather, the issue with RI that stands out far and away (and always has) is educational level. And, that's confirmed by the Census Bureau. RI has far less educational achievement than either of its neighboring states - remarkably less, and that has always been the case in my lifetime.
That, more than anything, makes RI stand out in the Boston - Washington megalopolis.
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