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Old 09-06-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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ok here is my question...........we are really focused on returning to the land/ being sustainable etc etc...you know the story.......we would also like access to a some progressive/like minded folks since we are raising 2 children. we can find lots of thoose towns scattered all over the country. but they are all expensive for people trying to live simple ......... So....and I guess I am asking for something that folks may not want to share.... but where are places that are actually affordable and meet the above??? (if folks are willing to give up secrets I promise not to write mother earth news about it ) access to the mountains would be great, the closer the better but not a deal breaker if not. A place where land is affordable, we dont want city life but do like culture and access to things like healthy food stores, progressive folks, homeschoolers etc etc........ I am at the point of being open to almost anywhere......not texas to fl on the gulf or anywhere else crazy hot and nowhere crazy crazy cold like minnesota. Just throw it out it you think it might work...
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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SC, Northern GA, N AL, TN, NC, WV

Actually LOTS of places with very cheap rural abodes (under $100k)

I just bought a very nice 'trashed' rural home on acreage w/ gardens / orchard / barns / shop / house ... for $100k. It is in a Federally protected scenic area and 20 min to Portland OR (if you call them 'progressive'). I certainly don't consider the liberal part of OR / WA 'progressive'... they are certainly Passionate, but ruining the electorate for the rural dwellers, farmers, and job creators. AND they are certainly NOT open-minded or 'tolerant'... PNW is being converted to CA. AK will be the only safe westcoast refuge in the future.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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SC, Northern GA, N AL, TN, NC, WV

Actually LOTS of places with very cheap rural abodes (under $100k)

I just bought a very nice 'trashed' rural home on acreage w/ gardens / orchard / barns / shop / house ... for $100k. It is in a Federally protected scenic area and 20 min to Portland OR (if you call them 'progressive'). I certainly don't consider the liberal part of OR / WA 'progressive'... they are certainly Passionate, but ruining the electorate for the rural dwellers, farmers, and job creators. AND they are certainly NOT open-minded or 'tolerant'... PNW is being converted to CA. AK will be the only safe westcoast refuge in the future.
well outside portland sounds great...... but really WV and N AL progressive??? or SC for that matter.??? plus entire states vary soooooooooomuch......NC has multimillion dollar ocean front property and poooor a$$ rural mountains. Cant possibly be the same area
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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... WV and N AL progressive??? or SC for that matter.??? plus entire states vary soooooooooomuch......NC has multimillion dollar ocean front property and poooor a$$ rural mountains. Cant possibly be the same area

Adios, I'm outta here.

Can't say I didn't try, but I see nothing in your reply that will help you find nirvana.. (or offer any assistance to those who may have more info to offer)

Good luck
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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ok here is my question...........we are really focused on returning to the land/ being sustainable etc etc...you know the story.......we would also like access to a some progressive/like minded folks since we are raising 2 children. we can find lots of thoose towns scattered all over the country. but they are all expensive for people trying to live simple ......... So....and I guess I am asking for something that folks may not want to share.... but where are places that are actually affordable and meet the above??? (if folks are willing to give up secrets I promise not to write mother earth news about it ) access to the mountains would be great, the closer the better but not a deal breaker if not. A place where land is affordable, we dont want city life but do like culture and access to things like healthy food stores, progressive folks, homeschoolers etc etc........ I am at the point of being open to almost anywhere......not texas to fl on the gulf or anywhere else crazy hot and nowhere crazy crazy cold like minnesota. Just throw it out it you think it might work...
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That's the new term for "Liberal" isn't it?
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Manassas, VA
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So - Vermont would be out then....they are certainly a progressive state where one can find reasonably priced property. Taxes are a bit high but there are only 625,000 people in the entire state.... I like to call them gun carrying socialists . LOL, actually - I strive to be one of them some day soon!
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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I dont get why people are so damn combative on this forum....I just asked a question. If you dont like what I want dont answer but dont act like you are above me...... I mean do I really need to define progressive in 2011???? and no the entire states of WV SC etc could not possibly be called progressive/liberal/ open minded/ educated etc etc etc......some towns maybe .... I mean they are 2 of the most conservative states if anything. vermonter....when I said population I did not mean large metro areas...it just cant be all boondocks with a town of 500......Like I said she has plenty of work in a town of 10,000 and county of 50,000.. thank you
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:06 AM
 
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Adios, I'm outta here.

Can't say I didn't try, but I see nothing in your reply that will help you find nirvana.. (or offer any assistance to those who may have more info to offer)

Good luck
sorry not everyone agrees with you......so just out of curiosity what exactly is progressive about North alabama or west virginia......seriously if you are gonna be this defensive please point out what I missed
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Manassas, VA
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vermonter....when I said population I did not mean large metro areas...it just cant be all boondocks with a town of 500......Like I said she has plenty of work in a town of 10,000 and county of 50,000.. thank you
Not sure I understand what you are saying here. But, if you are looking for some rural areas with health food stores, etc. and lots of organics you'll be hardpressed to find both in the same area...but you could find one and drive in either direction and find something else. I'll be moving to a town of about 800. My property is up on a mountain road and looks out over all the ridges and valleys into canada. You can see every different storm out there. If I want a health market I can go to the city of Newport and find it there. To me - it is the best of both worlds. Taxes may get ya a bit...and if you go to the Vermont thread...they are such a bunch of downers who seem miserable which is not typical Vermont. But - that being said, I think you wanted a more moderate climate. That's my two cents.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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ok here is my question ........... we are really focused on returning to the land / being sustainable etc etc ... you know the story ....... we would also like access to a some progressive / like minded folks since we are raising 2 children.
You are not alone. This movement is gaining popularity.



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... we can find lots of thoose towns scattered all over the country. but they are all expensive for people trying to live simple ......... So .... and I guess I am asking for something that folks may not want to share .... but where are places that are actually affordable and meet the above??? (if folks are willing to give up secrets I promise not to write mother earth news about it )
We made our move when I retired. We knew that we would be living on my pension, so we searched a long time for a location where we would be able to afford living.

My pension is near to minimum-wage.

Most places where we had lived [being military we have moved a lot] the local economies are such that a family on minimum-wage can not survive.

Talking with others who were nearing their forced retirement, the thought is that local depressed economies have lots of families surviving on low wages.

Our last home had property taxes so high that the annual tax bill would consume 6 months of my pension. Where we moved to on the other hand, is a much larger place but it only uses half of one months pension to pay the taxes.

I have an old highschool friend who today lives in the DC beltway. She and her hubby each earn ~$100k/year. With their taxes, mortgage and commuting, they feel they are barely scrapping by.

Where I live the average household income is $24k. People raise children and thrive on much lower incomes in a depressed economy. This area has had a depressed economy for many decades [basically ever since modern refrigeration was invented which killed the ice-block shipping industry].

I know families here who have 5 acre gardens. They work their gardens by hand [no tractor], they sell organic produce in Farmer's Markets, and they are able to support their families. It is not real 'pretty'. They do not have a lot of cash to spare. No video games, no I-whatevers.



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... access to the mountains would be great, the closer the better but not a deal breaker if not. A place where land is affordable, we dont want city life but do like culture and access to things like healthy food stores, progressive folks, homeschoolers etc etc ........ I am at the point of being open to almost anywhere ...... not texas to fl on the gulf or anywhere else crazy hot and nowhere crazy crazy cold like minnesota. Just throw it out it you think it might work ...
Each place has it's good points and it's bad.

If you are going to farm, you have to avoid drought. A massive region of the USA is in drought right now. On homesteading forums I hear people whose entire crops are toast and livestock have died from this year's drought.

Google the drought, look at the maps of it. Gotta avoid drought.

Where we are, they do have hills and 'mountains' though it is all pretty low altitude.

We paid $300/acre for one forest parcel, and $900/acre for a second parcel that is forest with river frontage.

Organic is big here, and there is a massive network of off-grid organic farmers here. Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association

This state is VERY homeschool friendly. We home schooled our children.

But we get snow. Not as much snow as they do in the 'snow-belt' region. Those big snow dumps pass by to the South of us.

Every place has it's good and bad.

Here winter is when there is little farming to do, so everyone gets to go outside and play. Dog-sled teams are popular. Sledding is big, ice-fishing is popular.
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