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Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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There is plenty of public land for your ATV, and they can be fun and practical for certain breeds of people (including active retirees). SD was impressive to see the ATV's legally ply the roads of small rural towns and beautiful PUBLIC back country.
One neighbor (older guy) does go crazy once in a while and rips through his hayfields at 50 mph +. I figure it is his 'stress reduction therapy' for being a caregiver for his wife. I would never advocate or expect to see ATV's crossing private property. Around my parts, you would be shot. (No GRACE & Plenty of illegal grow operations that are booby trapped). ATV's be aware.
Nothing CHEAP about an ATV... Get a Samurai and stick in a VW diesel = ATV with HEAT, Economy, and RADIO. Kits readily available ~$2000 for WHOLE package, vs $10 - $14k for 'Open air ATV'.
but cityfolk shouldn't expect them to be kept off their property if they've got lots of acerage.
Seriously??
Trespassing is trespassing, it doesn't matter if you were originally from a city or have always lived rural. You should be able to expect people to stay off your property, at least if you post it...
Seriously??
Trespassing is trespassing, it doesn't matter if you were originally from a city or have always lived rural. You should be able to expect people to stay off your property, at least if you post it...
This.
The back of my property is a firing berm. It's posted for a reason.
In my experience rural living is cheaper. Less expensive housing but with more land, cheaper car insurance and so on. I also think living in a rural area keeps one from blowing money out of being bored. I find myself working in the yard more than going to the mall just to buy something. I am city slicker at heart but I have to admit if I ever move back its going to be an adjustment.
There's nothing wrong with ATV's, but cityfolk shouldn't expect them to be kept off their property if they've got lots of acerage. Some kid or hunter or whoever will forever be crossing your back pastures when you're not around, taking a short cut to somewhere. Gets annoying when they damage the pasture or are real jerks and leave a gate open or cut through a fence.
Where I live entering private property without permission of the owner is called trespassing. It doesn't matter whether the property is posted; the burden is on the person entering it. That's not a new law; it's a very old law. What good intent could a trespasser possibly have? Having fun doesn't count.
There's nothing wrong with ATV's, but cityfolk shouldn't expect them to be kept off their property if they've got lots of acerage. Some kid or hunter or whoever will forever be crossing your back pastures when you're not around, taking a short cut to somewhere. Gets annoying when they damage the pasture or are real jerks and leave a gate open or cut through a fence.
Sure - anything is possible. I guess rural property is not private property?
But yeah, that would be the kind of attitude that would **** me off.
Not surprised though. I guy here bought 5500 acres of a ranch and fenced it off with a 8 ft fence. The locals sued him a few times for closing off their hunting grounds.... They cut his fences numerous times etc. Helloooo! It is PRIVATE property and it's called PRIVATE for a reason
There is plenty of public land for your ATV, and they can be fun and practical for certain breeds of people (including active retirees). SD was impressive to see the ATV's legally ply the roads of small rural towns and beautiful PUBLIC back country.
Active retirees should be getting off their arses and walking (or some other form of movement) for fitness (doesn't "active" imply that?).
What's active about sitting on a fume spewing loud and stinky machine? You might as well sit on your couch.
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Active retirees should be getting off their arses and walking (or some other form of movement) for fitness (doesn't "active" imply that?).
What's active about sitting on a fume spewing loud and stinky machine? You might as well sit on your couch.
OD
I take it you do not compete in the 'ole men's / women's class of racing (Or spent several days bumping around covering hundreds of miles of backcountry and tugging your ATV out of the brambles, rivers, and over rocks)
The ole timers I know are in pretty good shape, several race competitively in many sports, including Master's Swimming (ride ATV to pool to swim 3 miles (210 lap lengths everyday), then go out and MAKE dust
Different strokes for different folks. Glad there are millions of acres of wilderness and national parks for the non-(anti) ATV crowd to enjoy. Much of nearby Idaho is wilderness + 5 HUGE wilderness areas in my state with varying terrain. UT parks are where I escape to find quiet and lonely places.
For 'rural' dwellers', you need to give space for all the 'crazies', I prefer ATV noise to bullets wissing by, but... I have both on occassion. Have lived rural for 50+ yrs, with WIDE variety of success.
Active retirees should be getting off their arses and walking (or some other form of movement) for fitness (doesn't "active" imply that?).
What's active about sitting on a fume spewing loud and stinky machine? You might as well sit on your couch.
OD
You can walk 20-30 MPH?
RURAL is called that for a reason.
Also, ATV's can carry materials etc.
I myself do not own one, but today I am laid up from the pain. I woke up screaming and gasping, I've hung upside down, used various medical devices, taken narcotics, traction, etc. And I still won't be doing anything much today except typing with one hand because part of the nerve damage sometime debilitates my limbs and my left arm is not working so well today.
Over the years as it gets worse I WILL get one to help me enjoy the outdoors more.
The Wonderful thing is this is America, and people are free to ignore what YOU don't approve of!
Don't like it... Buy more land so you don't have to hear it!
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(Or spent several days bumping around covering hundreds of miles of backcountry and tugging your ATV out of the brambles, rivers, and over rocks)
