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Old 01-12-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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that was actually my original point and I'm glad at least a couple people got it
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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You just can't argue with logic like that. I'll try with one bit of hypocrisy though:

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stop involving with other peoples that you dont event know
Which is precisely the argument of those who can't stand taggers. Stop tagging property that doesn't belong to you, or rather "other peoples that you dont even know".
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Count me in the crowd who's tired of seeing graffiti. Put them in jail for a first time offense, put the parents in jail for the second offense. Someone needs to put a stop to this.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:02 PM
 
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Something interesting I saw posted elsewhere some years ago:




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Recently on the news there has been talk about making parents directly-accountable for their juvenile childrens’ graffiti on other people’s property, and thus in turn ARRESTING said respective parents too. What do you think about this? Is this draconian, or is it finally about time for something like this now?
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:03 PM
 
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This one too:




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Reportedly, a policeman once told a mother (who kept calling them so many times over to her house whenever her unruly children acted up): “It is not our job to be raising your children!”. What do you think about his statement?
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:45 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Something interesting I saw posted elsewhere some years ago:




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Recently on the news there has been talk about making parents directly-accountable for their juvenile childrens’ graffiti on other people’s property, and thus in turn ARRESTING said respective parents too. What do you think about this? Is this draconian, or is it finally about time for something like this now?
I love the idea. Making the parents responsible will probably cut down on half of the graffiti in this city. Too many parents not caring what their children do in the wee hours of the night. It's just "little Johnny" being a teen right?! Wrong. It can probably be traced back to questionable parenting and lack of a good ass whipping.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:01 PM
 
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Default If a crime is an art form ,

Then the greatest crimes must be masterpieces and the perpetrators geniuses provided they weren't caught, if not they are just criminals ?
DaVinci they ain't.
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What makes you say they're not artists? You may not like the painting they did because it was done illegally, but the act of painting will always be an artistic one despite where the painting is. Since the act of painting is always an artistic one, the painter is always an artist. If someone plays music on a street that has banned street performers and gets removed, is that person no longer a musician?
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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I love the idea. Making the parents responsible will probably cut down on half of the graffiti in this city. Too many parents not caring what their children do in the wee hours of the night. It's just "little Johnny" being a teen right?! Wrong. It can probably be traced back to questionable parenting and lack of a good ass whipping.
Hahaha.......
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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What makes you say they're not artists? You may not like the painting they did because it was done illegally, but the act of painting will always be an artistic one despite where the painting is. Since the act of painting is always an artistic one, the painter is always an artist. If someone plays music on a street that has banned street performers and gets removed, is that person no longer a musician?
I confess that I do indeed consider SOME pieces to actually truly be considered Real Art, yes.....even whether it was a mutually-consensual agreement between the artist and the property owner OR not.....but then there are some other scrawlings which, to me, are definitely NOT Real Art.....of course, everyone considers Real Art to be this, that, or whatever else, I have noticed.....




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I wish there was something we could do about the suburban sprawl equivalent...billboard adverts and cookie cutter retail/restaurant signage destroying the skyline.
Bingo. Agreed.......
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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I would like to comment on the role of parents. Many of these kids don't have parents in the conventional sense. It's not like you call up Ward and June Cleaver and tell them that the Beaver and Wally have been tagging.

They are the kids of kids. Their moms are only 15 to 16 years older than them and the dads are gone. I recall seeing a young lady I worked with once who had a kid about 16. Then I saw here in a McD's drive through window a year later and she was happy about being pregnant again.

So arguing for parental values and fines are fine with me. I worry about whether they will work and thus are not an excuse for dealing directly with the taggers.
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