06-17-2013, 07:15 AM
Location: The "other" West Coast - in Florida
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I had never heard of The Landings so I went and looked it up. I think I might have even seen the listing of the house you might be talking about - giant round fireplace in the middle of the family room? I would hate it too. :-( That house (if I'm right) needs $100,000+ of renovation - basically gut the place - starting with removing that stupid fireplace! lol Even then, the layout is strange.
Anyway, I don't know much about that area - I haven't been down there except for maybe going to a mall.
I do know I originally thought I wanted us to buy in Lakewood Ranch when I was house shopping online only, but once I got down here I realized it really was not so great after all. (for us)
We've bought houses like this before however - he takes an out of state position and moves - searches for houses locally while I search online and take care of packing and selling the other house. It's worked for us - he takes video too and posts on You Tube - it really helps. We both pretty much agree on things we like however and it sound like you two might quite not meet on some things. That could make it harder. You might have to break down and fly out for a week to drive around and get a feel for the area. You might also have to limit searches to exclude certain types of houses. Anything tract-like built in the 70-80s is going to be horrible unless it's been completely redone. IMHO
06-17-2013, 10:10 AM
Location: Sarasota, FL
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While I enjoy your style and even your flair for the dramatic, I must say, in my world it seems very odd that you are even bothering to post this, because your first post seems definitive in that there is NO WAY it would be even remotely reasonable for anyone to try to talk you into this house.
If I were to see a house I loved and my wife were to react as you are, I would immediately forget all about it, just on the chance you would be miserable in it, which would of course make me miserable as well.
Good luck.
P.S. Want to buy a four-level 130-yr old house in the best neighborhood in Baltimore? It has 13 foot high ceilings, and a 12 foot high mirror that was in the room when Francis Scott Key died. You'll love it.
06-17-2013, 10:44 AM
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We have several friends that live in the Landings & I find the neighborhood quite peaceful & pretty when visiting. It is very centrally located. Yes, there are many homes built in 80's when the neighborhood was early established & even though we may cringe to look at that style now, it was a perfect design at the time- so I don't get the need to feel shocked at how homes look inside (other than the fact the owners probably should have updated before now..) It's kind of the way I look back at my teased bangs & peg rolled stonewashed jeans! ((Cringe)) but hey, it was super cool at the time...
Many times, you have to look beyond the house & concentrate on the area/amenities around it, that is, if you have the $ to renovate. I'd rather spend my money on a fixer upper in a good area versus a perfect new home in a bad area...
06-17-2013, 10:58 AM
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Californianz
You nailed it. That is the house. Hubby has cooled his jets a little because he overhead me telling my friend it would cost $300,000 thousand and 4 years to remodel that house. He knew it would be expensive but didn't realize how expensive.
I initially had the same reaction to the layout, but have figured out how a few well placed walls around the sunken living room would fix the feng shui. I was initially interested the "Austin House" and it had a ballroom and have become smitten with the idea of a ballroom. That sunken living room would make a great ballroom
I appreciate it that you get our process. I generally pick the neighborhood and the finalist houses and he selects between the finalists. He choice is usually my second choice but he ends up being right in the long run. We are both going next week for a look-see at the neighborhoods south of downtown.
Rushmore
The sad thing is I would consider that house. It took me many hours of studying the pictures, pondering what is wrong with the house and what it would take to fix it, but I could make the inside very cool, with enough money. Hubby has to decide what he is willing to pay to be super close to the water. And he has to decide if he is willing to pay high hurricane insurance which according to an article I read, may increase steeply after Katrina and Sandy.
The houses in the neighborhood look ok. It is not like I would have to shield my eyes on a drive home. And I could see an advantage to living in a gated community since we are likely to be out of town a couple of months every year. Also there might not be the exodus of people in the summer from that community--more of a neighborhood community feel.
Thanks to both of you for your comments.
06-17-2013, 11:11 AM
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We have several friends that live in the Landings & I find the neighborhood quite peaceful & pretty when visiting. It is very centrally located. Yes, there are many homes built in 80's when the neighborhood was early established & even though we may cringe to look at that style now, it was a perfect design at the time- so I don't get the need to feel shocked at how homes look inside (other than the fact the owners probably should have updated before now..) It's kind of the way I look back at my teased bangs & peg rolled stonewashed jeans! ((Cringe)) but hey, it was super cool at the time...
Many times, you have to look beyond the house & concentrate on the area/amenities around it, that is, if you have the $ to renovate. I'd rather spend my money on a fixer upper in a good area versus a perfect new home in a bad area...
PixiStix
Here in CA mid century modern is all the rage. I am not a fan of anything but very traditional or funky historic, but I recognize that 1980s style could be the next mid century modern.
I like fixing up houses. I get to pick the cabinets, granite, floors. Instead of living with someone's elses ok choices, I get to put in what I consider to be fabulous. That is why I am asking questions about the neighborhood.
thanks for your perspective. It is the kind of balance I was hoping to get from this thread.
Rushmore
That house in Baltimore sounds fabulous. How is the beach?
06-17-2013, 01:20 PM
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Rushmore
That house in Baltimore sounds fabulous. How is the beach?
If it helps me sell you the house...
....the beach is MAGNIFICENT!!!!
06-17-2013, 03:05 PM
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I think Hubby is just scared of moving without a specific place to land. I am in favor of renting until the right house comes along.
It has also dawned on Hubby that if we were going to spend $500,000 for that house and put $300,000 in remodel costs (not to mention 4 years of eating dust) we would just be better off buying an $800,000 house that was done the way we want and not in a flood zone A.
I showed him one that would work for me (a newer traditional) and it has just become his new IT house. He is not so smitten with the new IT house, but he really hates eating plaster dust. And this other house checks all his boxes except a stroll to the water that is measured in feet, not blocks.
I think I am safe from trying to make the monstrosity work. Everyone's comments have helped because it provided a way for Hubby and I to continue to talk about the property in an open way. We are still going to go see the monstrosity house, but I will be really shocked if he still wants it.
House hunting is sort of like speed dating. Big crush...Realize the psycho features.... Break up....Continue search.
Thanks everyone for their help.
06-17-2013, 03:18 PM
Location: Englewood, FL
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Are there ANY houses where you can walk to the water that aren't in an A zone? What kind of water are we talking about? I'm glad your hubby moved away from that house- I found it too, and you're right- it needs a ton of time and work! However, the neighborhood does look nice. Lots of trees!
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06-17-2013, 11:40 PM
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Ok. Now that I am no longer in danger of living here, I want to share, just in case there is someone who left their heart in the 1980s.
06-18-2013, 08:29 AM
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Ok. Now that I am no longer in danger of living here, I want to share, just in case there is someone who left their heart in the 1980s.
LOL - wow - that would really take a LOT of $$$ - and in the end you would have an over-remodeled 80s house!
Glad you are talking him out of it.
Since nothing is a done deal for you yet, I just wanted to say that if you decide on an older home, the neighborhoods I would recommend to you would be those south of downtown, west of Trail, north of Bay Road. These include Southside Village area (near Hillview) Harbor Acres, Cherokee Park, McClellan Park - also just a little further south is Oyster Bay. I have no idea what the price range is, they are very desirable and higher-priced neighborhoods, close to everything in Sarasota, and with a historic feel. Some homes are new homes that were rebuilt when people bought a small older home for the location and built new, or substantially added on. It would be worth your while to check these out; they are all close to the water, and extremely beautiful.
It will definitely be better when you are both here in person to check out the area you want - remember, my husband always says that ANY house can be changed, but you can't do a thing about the location, location, location. So be sure you get the location you want. Even that 1980s house can be remodeled - it all comes down to what you want to spend (although in that case, I don't really recommend it, LOL)
ETA: You might also look into Indian Beach and Sapphire Shores - two beautiful historic waterfront neighborhoods that are west of Trail, north of downtown near the museums, etc. I love those neighborhoods!
Good luck to you!
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People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)