Will Houston's metro population ever catch up to or pass DFW's? (Dallas: live, centers)

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Im with you there. The only ones that kinda make sense are the Bay Area, DC/Baltimore, and maybe Boston. Thats it. For DFW and Houston, the CSA is irrelevant.

I actually agree here. Especially since considering small towns 2 hours away from Dallas (and farther away from Fort Worth) are included. I’d also include LA as a place where CSA is relevant since Riverside isn’t included in the MSA. But that’ll probably change sooner than later.

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

Denton county will be the next hot spot in DFW in the coming decades.

...IMO....it will begin to develop just like Austin.
*Large universities
*Lots of live music
*Denton already has it's on version of quirk...its not "Weird" but it's quirky...This will be enhanced
*Tech will definitely bleed up north because it's cheaper and still in the metroplex.
* With Tech comes transplants.
* With transplants comes residential demand
*To quickly suffice the sudden raging demand comes tall residential buildings.(which is where Austin is now)

....I said "IMO"!!

I’m going with Northeast Tarrant County in the present. Charles Schwab Corp is moving it’s headquarters to Westlake bringing up to 7,000 jobs.

Hillwood president Mike Berry said it is becoming increasingly obvious that the region is a financial center pulling powerful institutions. Hillwood developed AllianceTexas and Circle T Ranch, where Schwab is located.

Between Schwab, Ameritrade and Fidelity, Berry estimated at least 13,000 work in financial services at Circle T on the east end of the 26,000-acre Alliance development. Farther to the west near Alliance Airport, Mercedes-Benz Financial Services finished a 200,000-square-foot office last year and employs a few thousand more.

Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/b...#storylink=cpy

https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/...e-dab4735ce8f4

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by jd433

The Dallas area actually extends out to Caddo Oklahoma. That's about 120 miles from downtown Dallas. I can't possibly imagine that someone would drive fro. Caddo Oklahoma to Downtown Dallas for work every day. I mean I've heard of Suburbs, I've heard of bedroom communities and I've heard of exurbs but what do you call Caddo Oklahoma?

Exactly. I wonder why the census bureau is so flexible for defining DFW suburbs and to a lesser degree all of Texas really. Not even the Miami Metro which has reasonable density between some of their northern most suburbs include them.

[Mr. Clutch]

Originally Posted by Jack Lance

I found these population projections from American City Business Journals that does project Greater Houston to catch up and pass DFW by 2035. Just click the link then scroll to the bottom of the article to find the portal to their cloud database. It also has a link to their formulations.

The following database contains population projections by American City Business Journals (ACBJ) for 933 metropolitan and micropolitan areas across the country.
Projections are presented for five different intervals that begin in 2015. The shortest is five years (2015-2020), while the longest is a quarter-century (2015-2040).

https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourn...sdatabase.html

It's definitely possible. Look, for all the growth that DFW has gone through recently, it's not like its been crushing Houston. Lets look at the total metro numbers over the decade.

Greater Houston 2010: 5,920,487
Greater Houston 2018: 6,997,384
Difference: +1,076,897 +18.2%

DFW Metroplex 2010: 6,426,222
DFW Metroplex 2018: 7,539,711
Difference: +1,113,489 +17.3%

So over 9 years DFW has outgrown Houston by around 36,500 people. This is during a decade where DFW saw an economic boom and Houston had a major hurricane with over $100 billion dollars in damage (and a ton of bad press) and low oil prices throughout half of the timeframe. I think Houston will be fine, as always, there will be some point in the future where it overtakes DFW in growth and we're back here having this same conversation. The area certainly isn't struggling.

[jd433]

I am starting to realize that there are many more important concerns in this life than weather or not one Metro will catch up to another. Yes we are all proud of our hometown but this is not a cause of great importance when you put it in perspective. Both places have gained over 1,000,000 people over the last 8 years. That is more than any other metro area. However that doesn't make any of us here a better person. I think it may actually add stress to our lives and may even give a false sense of hope. Our self esteem should not be tied to our City. None of us personally will be a better person just because we live in Dallas or Houston.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by kdogg817

I’m going with Northeast Tarrant County in the present. Charles Schwab Corp is moving it’s headquarters to Westlake bringing up to 7,000 jobs.

Hillwood president Mike Berry said it is becoming increasingly obvious that the region is a financial center pulling powerful institutions. Hillwood developed AllianceTexas and Circle T Ranch, where Schwab is located.

Between Schwab, Ameritrade and Fidelity, Berry estimated at least 13,000 work in financial services at Circle T on the east end of the 26,000-acre Alliance development. Farther to the west near Alliance Airport, Mercedes-Benz Financial Services finished a 200,000-square-foot office last year and employs a few thousand more.

Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/b...#storylink=cpy

https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article/...e-dab4735ce8f4

Just seen this on the news!!! That is gonna be game changing for Ft.Worth and surrounding areas....and it is also going in the direction i just mentioned Denton County. But no worries...everybody will eat.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by jd433

I am starting to realize that there are many more important concerns in this life than weather or not one Metro will catch up to another. Yes we are all proud of our hometown but this is not a cause of great importance when you put it in perspective. Both places have gained over 1,000,000 people over the last 8 years. That is more than any other metro area. However that doesn't make any of us here a better person. I think it may actually add stress to our lives and may even give a false sense of hope. Our self esteem should not be tied to our City. None of us personally will be a better person just because we live in Dallas or Houston.

City Data and other forums like it are all in good fun. Except the politics section...

[Exult.Q36]

Originally Posted by jd433

I am starting to realize that there are many more important concerns in this life than weather or not one Metro will catch up to another. Yes we are all proud of our hometown but this is not a cause of great importance when you put it in perspective. Both places have gained over 1,000,000 people over the last 8 years. That is more than any other metro area. However that doesn't make any of us here a better person. I think it may actually add stress to our lives and may even give a false sense of hope. Our self esteem should not be tied to our City. None of us personally will be a better person just because we live in Dallas or Houston.

We all are just a bunch of nerds. This is more for fun and entertainment purposes. Don’t take this stuff too seriously.

[Jack Lance]

Originally Posted by jd433

I am starting to realize that there are many more important concerns in this life than weather or not one Metro will catch up to another. Yes we are all proud of our hometown but this is not a cause of great importance when you put it in perspective. Both places have gained over 1,000,000 people over the last 8 years. That is more than any other metro area. However that doesn't make any of us here a better person. I think it may actually add stress to our lives and may even give a false sense of hope. Our self esteem should not be tied to our City. None of us personally will be a better person just because we live in Dallas or Houston.

Oh that's not true ,we that live in Houston are obviously smarter , better looking, and better lovers because we live in Houston. Count your blessings dude...

[Mr. Clutch]

Originally Posted by kdogg817

We all are just a bunch of nerds. This is more for fun and entertainment purposes. Don’t take this stuff too seriously.

Exactly! These debates are all fun because they're too ridiculous to happen in real life.