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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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When people complain about the numbers from the EU, the numbers thrown around are tend to be 6/7 figures. The type of numbers that need serious consideration in terms of planning infrastructure and whatnot. The numbers that would come through your proposed route are statistically irrelevant. Going from Dublin where you can work legally, to Belfast where you are an illegal alien, is not a tempting prospect for most right minded people. If someone was desperate couldn't they just fly to the UK and overstay their visit? There won't be significant barriers to prevent EU nationals from coming here as visitors.

There's a reason why this is never brought up in the political debate, because it's irrelevant.
On the contary, it's because the Irish border is so plagued with problems, politicians on the brexit side elect to spoof their way through it
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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On the contary, it's because the Irish border is so plagued with problems, politicians on the brexit side elect to spoof their way through it
The Irish situation has always been delicate, so allowances are made. This supposed migrant route you're proposing is not an issue. You're just being pedantic on this one.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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The Irish situation has always been delicate, so allowances are made. This supposed migrant route you're proposing is not an issue. You're just being pedantic on this one.
Well we will soon discover how accurate your rosey prediction is.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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What's to stop romanians reaching England via the Republic of Ireland?

Post brexit, you still have a leaky border where someone flies to Dublin and hops on a bus to Belfast
Yes, but you can still have passport checks on the ferry to mainland Britain from the island of Ireland without having a "hard border". They do running passport//ID/Driving Licence checks when we board the ferry to the Isle of Wight, there's no "hard border" there.

However, looks like the EU institution supersedes the Common Travel Area of 1923 and the GFA for peace. The UK will not erect a hard border in Eire, the EU will demand this upon Ireland however. As a remainer I'm getting fed up with Eurocrats, can't wait to get out from under them now.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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Well we will soon discover how accurate your rosey prediction is.
I await the imaginary stampede and Farage declaring that we need to build a wall. Because apparently people are that desperate to live in NI.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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I await the imaginary stampede and Farage declaring that we need to build a wall. Because apparently people are that desperate to live in NI.
Northern Ireland will be a bridge to the mainland from the EU
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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Northern Ireland will be a bridge to the mainland from the EU
NI is no better a bridge than France is, how many times do you need reminding that ID is required to travel between NI and the mainland?
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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NI is no better a bridge than France is, how many times do you need reminding that ID is required to travel between NI and the mainland?
What the hell are you talking about

How could Northern Ireland be no different from France
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:53 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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What the hell are you talking about

How could Northern Ireland be no different from France
You're still missing the point of the ID checks (Usu. UK driving licence or passport) already in place. Side-stepping the subject and deflecting the argument to an N.I v France comparison doesn't make the ID checks without a "hard border" any less a current reality.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:55 PM
 
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What the hell are you talking about

How could Northern Ireland be no different from France
If you haven't got my basic point by now then I don't think it'll ever sink in
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