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Old 11-30-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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Huh? I don't understand what you are saying here. Please proofread your post.

But you admitted that you don't live there either, so what does that say about you and your opinion? Speaking of contradictions....
You don't understand my post, but then make comments about it? Hmm...

My point was made, I'm sure you understand... no I don't pay rent there, but I stay there maybe a couple of times a week... so...

Although, my family stay in areas, I don't know all of it... but you don't live in PG... and talk about times you lived there 30 years ago like it was yesterday. It is confusing to readers.

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Old 11-30-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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I think people forget about Konterra. Not as smart growth as I or others would like, but a worthy development nonetheless.


Development in Prince George's Could Rival Tyson's Corner | NBC4 Washington

There is a lot of movement in PG, as a whole. Maybe not as fast as some would like, but there is a lot happening. I would like to see them plan and get it right though... there is also a new development going up next to Greenbelt metro... condos and townhouses (or condo/townhouses, not exactly sure how those will work)... There are lots of developments going up around metro stops in PG...

There are lot of improvements happening at the same time... baby steps here and there. Guess some want a full sprint from the start.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:37 PM
 
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But you brought up VA.....I am not trying to assume how many people you know. Even if you know a lot of people, your point about VA not being talked about negatively is not true. There are 2 million people who live in VA. Do you speak for all of them? The NoVa section is my example of at least some people. People have preferences and some don't like parts of VA. Perception appears to be your reality. Are you really basing your experience on people you know and what they say?

And I take your comments personal because you have made personal attacks on me for several weeks now. If you aren't trying to be personal, then why are your posts so extra?
Oh, wow... glad other people don't get easily offended. For the most part I don't try to get personal... it is all fun for me... it is not that serious...

But since you bring it up, I've definitely seen some personal attacks from you on adelphi_sky. The last one about "socialism" was a bit overboard, IMO.

But I do like to correct items I believe are wrong... some of the comments you make are definitely off... you can push and pull them to fit what you believe about PG, but they are off and sometimes downright wrong. Am I going to list every single one in a single post? No... I'm about to go watch a movie. lol

But you are smart, you know what I'm talking about.

So please don't take my posts personally, I'm simply trying to correct wrong information being put out. Seriously.
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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You don't understand my post, but then make comments about it? Hmm...

My point was made, I'm sure you understand... no I don't pay rent there, but I stay there maybe a couple of times a week... so...

Although, my family stay in areas, I don't know all of it... but you don't live in PG... and talk about times you lived there 30 years ago like it was yesterday. It is confusing to readers.
First of all I was living there at this time last year. You are talking about me like I lived there 5 years ago or something.

Secondly, I still own property in Prince George's County so I am there quite often checking on my property and everything else that is going on, so I have a much more vested interest in the county. If you don't even pay rent there, then how are you going to question someone's understanding of a place that they own property in? You could stop moving to PG and never have anything to do with it. For me, I'm a tax payer and a property owner.

"I don't know all of it"

Stick with that. Remember it, especially before you respond again. Thank you.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:04 PM
 
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Oh, wow... glad other people don't get easily offended. For the most part I don't try to get personal... it is all fun for me... it is not that serious...
This is coming from someone that was offended by someone using the word "negro" (which was used to describe the language spoken, not an actual person), which isn't even a racist word.....sure you don't take it serious.

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But since you bring it up, I've definitely seen some personal attacks from you on adelphi_sky. The last one about "socialism" was a bit overboard, IMO.
Because I told him that his point supported socialism? How is that personal? Saying that someone support socialism is not a personal attack, it's not even a derogatory term. What he said is 100% socialism and another poster pointed it out as well. Do you understand what socialism is and why the term was being used.

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But I do like to correct items I believe are wrong... some of the comments you make are definitely off... you can push and pull them to fit what you believe about PG, but they are off and sometimes downright wrong. Am I going to list every single one in a single post? No... I'm about to go watch a movie. lol

But you are smart, you know what I'm talking about.

So please don't take my posts personally, I'm simply trying to correct wrong information being put out. Seriously.
Correcting someone like calling them Charlie Brown's teacher? Really dude? Look I get it. I see right through this and I have for a couple of weeks now. It's pretty obvious your attitude towards me changed after you saw some of the posts that PhenomenalAJ made. I honestly believe, you believe every word he says. I honestly think you think I'm so old racist white guy who has never been to PG ever in my life. Look I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with me, but your posts have gone way beyond that.

Then even when you post things that are wrong like
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No one ever says "damn those condo fees are killer in VA". Or there are some terrible places in VA
and I pointed out to you that not only you were wrong and why you were wrong, you turned it around didn't acknowledge that you were wrong, just simply questioned how much I knew (or didn't know about you) and deflected from the conversation.

Look if you was to come on here and "correct" people at least a) know what you're talking about. Since when did living in a place for a couple of days out of a week make you an expert? I mean you can learn a lot about a place, but you have spent more time attacking people then sharing information. Then you question people's knowledge of a place that they actually lived, paid rent, paid mortgages, and paid taxes while you haven't even rented a property in PG? How backwards is that? If you think I am wrong fine, but instead of explaining why you think I am wrong, you question my knowledge of a place just because I don't currently live there???

And b) grow some thick skin, if someone tells you you're wrong, don't go and make a personal attack on them. It's childish. Something you would expect from a court jester, not a "king".
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:44 PM
 
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PGC is lost and until leadership and tax laws change it won't come back. Maryland as a WHOLE is suffering it only has a percentage of jobs in the DMV - and PGC a smaller fraction of that.

The reason employers don't come to Maryland is because of tax law and restrictive trade, VA gets first look all day. MD is the best thing going for VA right now. I am surprised no one in the thread has mentioned this -- this is the main issue for employment in MD and PG - taxes.

Maryland needs to change, lower taxes and create downtown areas until then it will wallow. You can kid yourself and look at MOCO but in reality MoCo does as much as say Tyson's in square feet and revenue. MoCo is SMALL potatoes - all of MD is having a problem not just PG.

Very little to do with racism IMO. If I am starting a business MARYLAND is the last - repeat LAST place my doors are opening up and that's due purely to money and revenue. It doesn't make financial sense for business owners to go there.

If you want racism look at white people moving into black neighbohoods NE/SE. They don't give a damn - money talks even OVER racsim. Problem with PGC -- no money.....no leadership ..... No hope.

Please read:
http://reason.com/archives/2012/05/3...e-driving-jobs

And ask yourself deep deep down inside and honestly, think CSC is relocating to VA because Maryland is too black (couldn't they go to MoCo??) - what's the real reason? Volkswagen - they racist too???? How about Lockheed? They all part of a secret society conspiring against PG? Or does Maryland just SUCK for business reasons????

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Old 12-01-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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PGC is lost and until leadership and tax laws change it won't come back. Maryland as a WHOLE is suffering it only has a percentage of jobs in the DMV - and PGC a smaller fraction of that.
PGC won't come back from what? The 80s? 90s? lol Right now the prospects for the county have been better than they have been in 25 years. And from what has been said in this forum, PGC has sucked for decades. So, what is it coming back from if it hasn't been anywhere? And Maryland is suffering? Really?

According to many including the author of the following article, Maryland in one of the states with the top economies in the country at #9, VA is merely two spots ahead at #7.

Read more: The Best- and Worst-Performing State Economies in America - 24/7 Wall St. - The Atlantic

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Maryland needs to change, lower taxes and create downtown areas until then it will wallow. You can kid yourself and look at MOCO but in reality MoCo does as much as say Tyson's in square feet and revenue. MoCo is SMALL potatoes - all of MD is having a problem not just PG.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Maryland's unemployment rate in in the top half of the country at 6.7.

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Very little to do with racism IMO. If I am starting a business MARYLAND is the last - repeat LAST place my doors are opening up and that's due purely to money and revenue. It doesn't make financial sense for business owners to go there.
Businesses still locate in Maryland. Just because they're not headline news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There is more to business than landing one of three top defense firms in the country.

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If you want racism look at white people moving into black neighbohoods NE/SE. They don't give a damn - money talks even OVER racsim.
And DC is the poster child for fiscal responsibility and a friendly business environment? Last time I checked, the schools are worse than PGC, income disparity is as wide as it has been, and the unemployment rate is almost at 8.9 percent compared to Maryland's 6.7.

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How Maryland's Tax Rates Are Driving Jobs to Virginia - Reason.com

And ask yourself deep deep down inside and honestly, think CSC is relocating to VA because Maryland is too black (couldn't they go to MoCo??) - what's the real reason?
Not sure what you mean by that statement.

CSC signs new lease, relocating in Prince George's County

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Volkswagen - they racist too???? How about Lockheed? They all part of a secret society conspiring against PG? Or does Maryland just SUCK for business reasons????
Those wins and losses are due to factors more complex than just, "Maryland sucks." And the answer is not just about lowering taxes.

Look at Delaware. A business tax haven, yet their unemployment rate is at 6.7 and they are half the geographical size of MD. Imagine that. Shouldn't Delaware be the richest state in the union with practically 0% unemployment if taxes were the only answer? Where are their tall skyscrapers and cities with millions of people working happily in such a joyful business environment? Why hasn't Lockheed, Volkswagon, and others flocked to Delaware? No county in Delaware even breaks the top 100 richest counties list. PGC comes in at 69. If taxes were the end all be all, shouldn't there be at least one county in Delaware higher than PGC?
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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Didn't the OP wish to avoid this melee?

People get all up in arms about the need to bring more government jobs to the area rather than private industry. Government does not create jobs and never builds wealth. Government jobs are but redistribution of wealth.
Liberal MD got all gun unfriendly and is going to lose Beretta, a real company in PGC, due to liberal policies. No one seemed to care but rather applauded in ignorance. They should have been waving at at economy gone bad. If MD was extremely gun friendly some companies not wanted in other states might move here and set up shop.
As it is, MD is probably one of the most business unfriendly states in the nation and most of us are well aware of the fact. Other than DC and the federal government tucked into the side pocket of the state, MD has very little going for it. Tourism? Sure, we have beaches on the other side of the bay but what does that do for the rest of the state?

O'Malley to the rescue?
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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PGC won't come back from what? The 80s? 90s? lol Right now the prospects for the county have been better than they have been in 25 years. And from what has been said in this forum, PGC has sucked for decades. So, what is it coming back from if it hasn't been anywhere? And Maryland is suffering? Really?

According to many including the author of the following article, Maryland in one of the states with the top economies in the country at #9, VA is merely two spots ahead at #7.

Read more: The Best- and Worst-Performing State Economies in America - 24/7 Wall St. - The Atlantic

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Maryland's unemployment rate in in the top half of the country at 6.7.

Businesses still locate in Maryland. Just because they're not headline news doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There is more to business than landing one of three top defense firms in the country.

And DC is the poster child for fiscal responsibility and a friendly business environment? Last time I checked, the schools are worse than PGC, income disparity is as wide as it has been, and the unemployment rate is almost at 8.9 percent compared to Maryland's 6.7.

Not sure what you mean by that statement.

CSC signs new lease, relocating in Prince George's County

Those wins and losses are due to factors more complex than just, "Maryland sucks." And the answer is not just about lowering taxes.

Look at Delaware. A business tax haven, yet their unemployment rate is at 6.7 and they are half the geographical size of MD. Imagine that. Shouldn't Delaware be the richest state in the union with practically 0% unemployment if taxes were the only answer? Where are their tall skyscrapers and cities with millions of people working happily in such a joyful business environment? Why hasn't Lockheed, Volkswagon, and others flocked to Delaware? No county in Delaware even breaks the top 100 richest counties list. PGC comes in at 69. If taxes were the end all be all, shouldn't there be at least one county in Delaware higher than PGC?

Excuses for everything! I love it. "What problem??" wow I stopped reading after that part. I am a resident of PGC and it has problems - the fact that you evade/deny them does me and every other resident that wants better in this county a disservice.

I can't converse with cheerleaders so good day!
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Old 12-01-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Didn't the OP wish to avoid this melee?

People get all up in arms about the need to bring more government jobs to the area rather than private industry. Government does not create jobs and never builds wealth. Government jobs are but redistribution of wealth.
Liberal MD got all gun unfriendly and is going to lose Beretta, a real company in PGC, due to liberal policies. No one seemed to care but rather applauded in ignorance. They should have been waving at at economy gone bad. If MD was extremely gun friendly some companies not wanted in other states might move here and set up shop.
As it is, MD is probably one of the most business unfriendly states in the nation and most of us are well aware of the fact. Other than DC and the federal government tucked into the side pocket of the state, MD has very little going for it. Tourism? Sure, we have beaches on the other side of the bay but what does that do for the rest of the state?

O'Malley to the rescue?
Business unfriendly?? Not according to some other posters! That's not smoke - that's the by product of all of the sub prime market correcting itself! Everything is fine! Ignore all the construction in NOVA please it's all a sham.
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