Washington State is NOW NUMBER ONE...in gas prices (roads, police)

[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by jertheber

I could take the peeing and moaning more seriously had I not noted the huge amount of oversized pickup trucks on the highways, large SUV's and RV's also speak to the fact that US fuel prices are nowhere near the point that would cause these people to make a different choice of transportation. ...of course they drive a Dodge Ram or some similar vehicle. Should we be empathizing with all that foolishness, or simply laugh at the pretzel logic on display?

... It may be that taking stock of one's lifestyle could go a long ways toward understanding how some people add to the misery of all that which we can't control..

Yes, lifestyle conservation and community responsibility will be the key.

That said... My Dodge Ram gets 22mpg (empty) on free home brew fuel (since 1976). It also tugs 40,000# around the hills and Mtns of WA state (daily). It also will last 1m miles, (not requiring additional Manf / raw material / chemical / energy impact of building a replacement (plastic / electronic) disposable (?) vehicle).It will last the rest of my driving life (as will my efficient cars).

Do your part, but be careful to no impose an unreasonable burden on those who are doing their part (within the constraints of their needs, finances, and abilities)

[tifosi]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

If it's any consolation, we still have lower bridge tolls than SF. Even 520 at peak traffic is just $5.40, and as little as $1.25 at other low traffic times. They are in the process of a rate increase on seven Bay Area bridges from $7 to $8.50. The Golden Gate bridge is already at $8.80.


https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/06/...other-transit/

You're right, most of the time the 520 tolls are lower than those for the bridges in the Bay Area, largely because the Bay Area bridges don't use time of day pricing. However, with the exception of the Golden Gate Bridge, the 520 tolls are higher during peak commute hours (7-9 am, 3-6 pm) Monday-Friday. That's because they're charged in both directions, while on the Bay Area bridges they're only charged one way.

As for the specter of another toll increase on Bay Area bridges to bail out BART and other transit agencies, we'll see about that. The voters would have to approve it and they just had the rate raised from $6 to $7 in January as part of a previously approved measure.

[87112]

If you want something reliable, fair priced and a good ride well Buick yes Buicks are a good deal used. The stigma of a retired person ride lowers its value a lot.

If I was looking for a ride to drive cross country a quiet, soft Buick is fine with me.

[PS90]

Originally Posted by jabogitlu

High fuel prices impact cost of goods and services locally, of course, but as far as my direct purchase of gasoline, this barely impacts me. I own a car but drive only occasionally. Living in the center city, I mostly walk or take a bus.

Originally Posted by jabogitlu

That sounds like a you problem. I grew up extremely rural and we were proud to be self-sufficient. I don't know what has happened to Americans over the past 20 years. It seems like all folks can figure out how to do is whine and *****.

So you literally said that the problem doesn't affect you. But, to you, anyone who it does affect, and dares speak out in opposition, is "whining" and "bitching"?

Spoken like a true liberal!

[CalWorth]

I have a mule, but I don't know if he can keep up with all the Teslas & Rivians that I see on the way to Seattle. He's cheaper, though.

[MtnSurfer]

Originally Posted by CalWorth

I have a mule, but I don't know if he can keep up with all the Teslas & Rivians that I see on the way to Seattle. He's cheaper, though.

And no emissions that are unnatural. Just don't do that where the Teslas drive.

You can get a little buggy for him and make it a little more sporty.

[509]

Latest from AAA....

California regular gas $4.844
Washington $4.981

That is spread of 13.7 cents a gallon!!!

Thanks to Jay and the Democrats....no way that California is going to catch up with us now!!

[StealthRabbit]

Paid $2.69 a few minutes ago (in central TX) 83f, nice day for a 100 mile ride on dirt ranch roads, I only saw 3 cars, but that's busy for my route. Glad I get 60 mpg on this gas hog. I'll be using my 120 mpg MC in WA. Wish they burned my free fuel.

[CalWorth]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

Paid $2.69 a few minutes ago (in central TX) 83f, nice day for a 100 mile ride on dirt ranch roads, I only saw 3 cars, but that's busy for my route. Glad I get 60 mpg on this gas hog. I'll be using my 120 mpg MC in WA. Wish they burned my free fuel.

[CalWorth]

Originally Posted by MtnSurfer

And no emissions that are unnatural. Just don't do that where the Teslas drive.

You can get a little buggy for him and make it a little more sporty.

Alas, he's old, I promised him a life of leisure!