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I'm going to wait until it's recorded at Heathrow as that's the universally recognized station for London. I reassert my conviction that for the purposes of this forum London has still not reached the magic number!
To all who are going to argue that "Kew Gardens is more representativ of London" deal with it, Heathrow is your official recording station...Central park is NYC official station and while many other downtown stations reached 90F long before it we waited until Central park hit that benchmark to state that "NYC has recorded its first 90F day" I believe we should, for the sake of consistency, do the same for London.
Neither Kew Gardens not Heathrow are really totally representative of the actual city to be honest. London WC or Camden (which closed down) would be.
Heathrow is not our official recording station, it is just the station used by many on here (it is the closest official station to me and B87 who are the only London posters left now) If you watch the weather over here, the tv will show temperatures right across London, and use the actual centre of the city when they quote the London temperature, not Heathrow.
Neither Kew Gardens not Heathrow are really totally representative of the actual city to be honest. London WC or Camden (which closed down) would be.
Heathrow is not our official recording station, it is just the station used by many on here (it is the closest official station to me and B87 who are the only London posters left now) If you watch the weather over here, the tv will show temperatures right across London, and use the actual centre of the city when they quote the London temperature, not Heathrow.
For the sake of consistency with universally recorded climate data I believe we should continue using the most commonly accepted station for each city...whether it be Central Park in NYC, MIA in Miami (which by the way is a station I hate because of the entire citys tendancy to as a whole record substantially cooler temperatures) Or Heathrow for London.
Yeah, I've come to realize a while back models are worthless at getting the temps right, but good at getting the trend and whether above or below average. Sometimes the models are below the actual highs, other times above. I check this all the time as I have a subcription to the ECMWF, Canadian, and GFS. They almost never get the temp right, but do get the trend.
Yeah, these things certainly always change as well for us. That really hot 20C+ 850 air could drift 200 miles too far east and hit Netherlands, Belgium and northern France instead of us just like it has done a couple of times this year already.
It's funny that this will coincide with the extreme heat in the PNW, perhaps this pattern that the US is stuck in is good for us, as we have been having milder winters and warmer summers since the US started getting these brutal winters again
For the sake of consistency with universally recorded climate data I believe we should continue using the most commonly accepted station for each city...whether it be Central Park in NYC, MIA in Miami (which by the way is a station I hate because of the entire citys tendancy to as a whole record substantially cooler temperatures) Or Heathrow for London.
But the title of this thread was if London as a whole had reached 80F, not London Heathrow. The answer to this question is yes. I am perfectly fine for members from NYC and Chicago to do the same with their cities, as people like Chicagogeorge do, as sometimes there can be big differences across a small area.
you have no idea how funny this sounds. The US is bigger than Europe.
Well, a very large proportion of the US has been getting brutal winters, Florida and the west coast aside. I meant to say the midwest and eastern US in particular, though
Yeah, these things certainly always change as well for us. That really hot 20C+ 850 air could drift 200 miles too far east and hit Netherlands, Belgium and northern France instead of us just like it has done a couple of times this year already.
It's funny that this will coincide with the extreme heat in the PNW, perhaps this pattern that the US is stuck in is good for us, as we have been having milder winters and warmer summers since the US started getting these brutal winters again
Most definitely it is the pattern of our colder winters, but has much more to do with the stupidly warm winters and summers the Pacific NW has been getting. The warm blob of water in the NE Pacific causes a huge ridge of high pressure there, and a low over us.
I so cannot wait for that warm blob to disappear, and it will eventually. The PNW will then return to average and below. It is coming as soon as that PDO flips back to cold. And they deserve it when it happens if you ask me.
Most definitely it is the pattern of our colder winters, but has much more to do with the stupidly warm winters and summers the Pacific NW has been getting. The warm blob of water in the NE Pacific causes a huge ridge of high pressure there, and a low over us.
I so cannot wait for that warm blob to disappear, and it will eventually. The PNW will then return to average and below. It is coming as soon as that PDO flips back to cold. And they deserve it when it happens if you ask me.
Seattle's pattern has certainly followed ours in summer the past few years, although this winter they were extremely mild whilst we weren't. For our sake I hope this pattern persists
Most definitely it is the pattern of our colder winters, but has much more to do with the stupidly warm winters and summers the Pacific NW has been getting. The warm blob of water in the NE Pacific causes a huge ridge of high pressure there, and a low over us.
I so cannot wait for that warm blob to disappear, and it will eventually. The PNW will then return to average and below. It is coming as soon as that PDO flips back to cold. And they deserve it when it happens if you ask me.
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