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Well no, seeing as there's more than one official met office site in London, simply saying "London", implies that he's talking about the whole city. London is a massive city, so inevitably it can have significant temperature differences, particularly away from central London.
As B87 lives near Heathrow, then it makes sense for him to use that site, which is fair enough. As he's now clarified, he meant Heathrow hasn't had a frost, which is correct, however another station (Northolt) has, therefore officially, London has had a frost.
so just because I can find a station in the Redlands that gets a frost every year even though it's 39F at my house, 41F downtown, and 40F at the airport, Miami gets a frost every year? That doesn't seem logical to me.
so just because I can find a station in the Redlands that gets a frost every year even though it's 39F at my house, 41F downtown, and 40F at the airport, Miami gets a frost every year? That doesn't seem logical to me.
Of course it's logical. The minimum temperature that city fell to is say -1C, yet for instance 20 miles away on the other side of the city, it only fell to 2C, the minimum for the entire city will still be -1C.
I'm not talking about specific suburbs, but the city as a whole.
Of course it's logical. The minimum temperature that city fell to is say -1C, yet for instance 20 miles away on the other side of the city, it only fell to 2C, the minimum for the entire city will still be -1C.
I'm not talking about specific suburbs, but the city as a whole.
So you would agree with someone saying that Miami gets a freeze every year even though the average yearly minimum at MIA is 39.8F? Just because some rural area with sandy soil sees huge temperature drops on clear, calm nights when most of the city doesn't?
To the same effect should I say L.A has "reached 110F" in the spring even though the highest temp at the official station might only be in the lower 90's?
So you would agree with someone saying that Miami gets a freeze every year even though the average yearly minimum at MIA is 39.8F? Just because some rural area with sandy soil sees huge temperature drops on clear, calm nights when most of the city doesn't?
To the same effect should I say L.A has "reached 110F" in the spring even though the highest temp at the official station might only be in the lower 90's?
Depends where this station is that you speak of?
Northolt, which had a freeze, is well within the built up area of London. It's not in the middle of nowhere, it's well within the city.
Why do you keep mentioning "official station"? Met office stations are 'official'.
So by your definition, if Northolt reached 40C in summer, it wouldn't count because it's not the "official station".
Northolt, which had a freeze, is well within the built up area of London. It's not in the middle of nowhere, it's well within the city.
Why do you keep mentioning "official station"? Met office stations are 'official'.
So by your definition, if Northolt reached 40C in summer, it wouldn't count because it's not the "official station". How odd.
It wouldn't count as London reaching 40C. It would count as the UK reaching 40C though. The Redlands (the are of south Florida which records a frost nearly every year) is only about a 30-40 minute drive from Downtown Miami and is part of the continuous developed area of metropolitan Miami. However, not for one second would I say that "Miami had a freeze" if it dipped to 0C there because 1. It's not representative of Miami as a whole and 2. The OFFICIAL station, from which all the temperature records, averages, and observations come from did not record a freeze.
I have my own issues with the official station (MIA), namely it's tendency to be the warmest location in the city of Miami (the coast often records colder lows than it ) but it is what it is.
I thought you'd say that. No offence, but that is idiotic.
I'd like to know if anybody else on planet earth shares that rather strange opinion?
So you think it's OK to cherry pick the warmest and coldest stations in your city and pass it off as a representation of the city as a whole? Ok, it was 61F in Miami this morning
But all of the Met Office stations are official stations. I only use Heathrow as it's closest to me and is an airport.
I know that, but Heathrow is the official station for London. There are official coop stations that are way colder than MIA but I don't use them because it's ridiculous to ignore the fact that there is a single station which logs all of the data for the city of Miami (likewise, Heathrow records all the official data and provides the averages for the city of London) I feel like I'm arguing with L.A Mex here.
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so just because I can find a station in the Redlands that gets a frost every year even though it's 39F at my house, 41F downtown, and 40F at the airport, Miami gets a frost every year? That doesn't seem logical to me.
) but it is what it is.
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