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Old 11-06-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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So you think it's OK to cherry pick the warmest and coldest stations in your city and pass it off as a representation of the city as a whole? Ok, it was 61F in Miami this morning
As far as I'm aware, London doesn't have one station that officially represents it - Heathrow is simply used more frequently because it's an airport station and isn't too influenced by the urban heat island. There is nothing saying that Heathrow is the official weather station for London and people can use whatever station they like.

What you're saying is stupid. Northolt is an area of London, so if it reached 40C at Northolt, it reached 40C in London, because Northolt is in London. The same area reached -16C in 2010 I believe so you can say the same thing again - it reached -16C in London. Nobody is saying that this station represents the city because it clearly does not.

At this point you are just being obtuse for the sake of argument.
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Old 11-06-2016, 05:47 AM
 
Location: York
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So you think it's OK to cherry pick the warmest and coldest stations in your city and pass it off as a representation of the city as a whole? Ok, it was 61F in Miami this morning
Are you seriously this stupid?
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Old 11-06-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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As far as I'm aware, London doesn't have one station that officially represents it - Heathrow is simply used more frequently because it's an airport station and isn't too influenced by the urban heat island. There is nothing saying that Heathrow is the official weather station for London and people can use whatever station they like.

What you're saying is stupid. Northolt is an area of London, so if it reached 40C at Northolt, it reached 40C in London, because Northolt is in London. The same area reached -16C in 2010 I believe so you can say the same thing again - it reached -16C in London. Nobody is saying that this station represents the city because it clearly does not.

At this point you are just being obtuse for the sake of argument.
In my opinion saying either would be inaccurate.

I think part of my disagreement with you and the other UK posters might stem from the fact that U.S cities generally have an official station that is meant to always represent the city and is the only one referenced in temperature discussion, observations, and in media.(this is why I say that using multiple stations constitutes cherry picking) Is this different in the UK?
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Old 11-06-2016, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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To be fair though Northolt's weather station is at the RAF base, which is actually located in South Ruislip not Northolt & is semi rural, not in a built up area, so it isn't exactly representative of "London". Before the counties were reclassified it was also in the county of Middlesex before being absorbed into Greater London...
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Old 11-06-2016, 06:22 AM
 
Location: York
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To be fair though Northolt's weather station is at the RAF base, which is actually located in South Ruislip not Northolt & is semi rural, not in a built up area, so it isn't exactly representative of "London". Before the counties were reclassified it was also in the county of Middlesex before being absorbed into Greater London...
You could say the same of Heathrow in that case. Nobody said it's representative of London, but it's certainly in London, and Is well within the M25. In fact, it's closer to central London than Heathrow.
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Old 11-06-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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You could say the same of Heathrow in that case. Nobody said it's representative of London, but it's certainly in London, and Is well within the M25. In fact, it's closer to central London than Heathrow.
Yes I know, I'm just pointing out that the weather station is in quite a rural area & is not built up. Technically it is in Greater London, but I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't associate South Ruislip with London, or think of that location when picturing "London"...
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Old 11-08-2016, 01:39 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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When will London see...

First high below 15c? 7th October (10th October)
First high below 10c? 12th November (5th November)
First high below 5c? 15th December
First frost? 20th November (8th November)

Low of -0.6c this morning.
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Phoenix saw it's first sub-50° low of the fall today, low was 48°, 5° below the normal low of 53°
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Update.
Prediction: Actual

First High Below 80F: Oct 3rd: Oct 23rd
First High at or Below 75F: Nov 2nd: Probably going to happen this weekend.
First High Below 70F: Nov 30th
First High at or Below 65F: Dec 21st
First High below 60F: Jan 16th (Does not happen in some winters although in most it does)

First Low Below 70F: Oct 11th: Oct 23rd
First Low at or Below 65F: Oct 23rd: Oct 23rd
First Low Below 60F: Nov 3rd: Chance of happening this weekend, the current forecast low is 60F.
First Low at or Below 55F: Nov 20th: Not looking likely.
First Low Below 50F: Dec 21st
First Low at or Below 45F: Jan 15th
First Low Below 40F: Jan 16th (Does not happen in about 50% of winters)

Highest temp: 83F-85F/28C-29C
Lowest Temp: 38F-42F/3C-6C
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Very good thread.

As for Melbourne Airport:

First 30°C = October 19
First 35°C = December 6 (my bday!! )
First 40°C = January 7

Feel free to add your own guesses as well.
First 30°C = 17 November.
First 35°C = Forecast for 21 November.

So my first guess was too early and my second was too late. This city is so stupid sometimes
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