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Im sorry I dont think theres anything wrong with wanting to know what your getting into before it happens. Maybe he should of phrased it better, maybe he shouldnt of asked then but I think if your one of those slave driver type people where your job is your life and theres no balance youre probably doing the guy a huge favor. Life is to short to be miserable..
For that level of job, his actions were inexcusable. Now had it been a McJob, that would change the situation. With 8 years of experience, he should have known better.
half the problem is that most of the folks who replied to original op don't see any problem w/the questions this fella asked. That's where the problem is. 'Uh...how little do I have to work to rake in my salary'... lolol...perfect candidate, right?
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A "job" is something people generally do not want to do, this is why you compensate them to do it. If people didn't get paid to do jobs (with the extreme rare exception) they would do something else. It doesn't have to be video games or television or bumming around, it could be working, but they're not going to actively work towards enriching someone else if they don't have to.
Employers want to receive good value for the compensation that they're providing, hence they ask questions, do background checks, try to get a feel for the potential hire. Compensation is adjusted to be as low as possible to retain the employee (and ideally, get them in the most efficient state).
Employees want to receive adequate compensation for their work. It's taboo however to ask about that compensation ahead of time though, because then you seem "lazy". Employees will (rightly so) attempt to get the maximum amount they feel they can get for their work.
Given "normal" unemployment numbers, this system balances out well. However fairly small swings in job demand/supply can very very quickly skew these figures.
Here in America companies aren't required to offer paid time off to their workers, buy they are in China.
Pretty damn bad when a communist country makes us look bad in the "how do you treat you employees" category.
Insane post, unless of course you wish for the wage levels of China, which are a tiny fraction of US minimum wage. Or the lack of regulation, the un hygenic conditions of the worker dorms, food supply, etc.
I guess reasonable minds can agree to disagree, but I just don't get the blind unwavering allegiance to the employers. Employers are not always in the right, and are not these flawless, benevolent entities that must never be questioned or criticized. I understand the need to "play by the rules" but never understood the whole "Company is never wrong" attitiude
Maybe the minimum hours of work put in, but that's where I stop agreeing with you.
Everyone is going to look for vacation days. It's normal. There are some companies that don't even give a week of vacation in a year and if it's a hard job, it's normal to ask for some days off.
This society has matured to the point where I think we should relax our ideas about work. Back in the late 90s they were saying that we would be able to work from a mountaintop with our laptop or at least work from home. Nah, nothing ever changes here. It's the same old processes over and over again, most of them antiquated.
100 years from now the antagonist in the OP's post may be the norm!
I don't think the asking about vacation is unreasonable.
But the MINIMUM HOURS? Seriously? Seriously? Why not just ask,
"What is the bare minimum I have to do around here to get paid?"
That guy was either clueless or an ass.
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Lol...
