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I agree. The signs of decay of Western Civilization are right there. Yet, people pull that spread the sunshine stuff and insist on being hopeful and positive.
Without a substantial plan and the ability to turn things around, it will tank. Just like all great civilizations do. Overpopulation, working class upholding the poor and the rich...
[SIZE=+1]"...keep them down by hard labor, poverty and ignorance, and... take from them, as from bees, so much of their earnings, as that unremitting labor shall be necessary to obtain a sufficient surplus to sustain a scanty and miserable life." --Thomas Jefferson to W. Johnson, 1823[/SIZE]
I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.- Thomas Jefferson
TY for the quotes! It's scary to think that Thomas Jefferson knew this WAY BACK WHEN ... yet look at us now!
TY for the quotes! It's scary to think that Thomas Jefferson knew this WAY BACK WHEN ... yet look at us now!
Yeah, he was really prophetic. But they knew what tyranny was, and how it came in different forms. It doesn't matter how technological we get, the same problems exist.
Jefferson had a quote about the big cities becoming too populated too.
He told James Madison: "I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get plied upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe."
Jefferson would be considered a socialist by today's right-wing nutjobs. He also wasn't too fond of large banks:
Jefferson made in a letter to John Taylor in 1816. He wrote, "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
Notice that he didn't add, "But it's okay if they screw over the people, provided they turn a profit."
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." --Thomas Jefferson
and interestingly, he said this too...
"I would rather be judged by 12 farmers than 12 scholars."
TY for the quotes! It's scary to think that Thomas Jefferson knew this WAY BACK WHEN ... yet look at us now!
Many of these problems we face today are not new. They may have a new face in some ways, but many of the founding fathers envisioned America the opposite of England in some regards. That is, avoiding the "debtors prison" system and keeping monopolies and corporations from becoming more powerful than the people. "Way back when" pretty much had the same problems we are dealing with today.
It will NOT happen. Even using the U6 numbers, 6 in 7 Americans are gainfully, fully employed.
This is bull, only 63 percent of adults are employed. Assuming you take a phone survey with a grain of salt, that 6 out of 7 number would be out of the people determined by the survey to be actively looking for work. It does not count the people who are
1. Homeless and cant participate in the phone survey
2. Flocked to disability or other source of welfare and "fell out of the workforce"
3. Underemployed by any other measure outside of reduced hours.
This is bull, only 63 percent of adults are employed. Assuming you take a phone survey with a grain of salt, that 6 out of 7 number would be out of the people determined by the survey to be actively looking for work. It does not count the people who are
1. Homeless and cant participate in the phone survey
2. Flocked to disability or other source of welfare and "fell out of the workforce"
3. Underemployed by any other measure outside of reduced hours.
It also doesn't count the forced early retirees who will end up dying in poverty in old-age, nor does it count people, like college graduates, who've never held a job that pays unemployment benefits - payment of benefits is needed to count as "unemployed."
The situation is far worse than the media admits, and even the U6 numbers reflect. Shadowstats pegs the unemployment rate in the mid 20's percentage-wise, and that seems about right.
In the last 3 months 225k is the number of people who found jobs. While in the same 3 months 246k worth of people were added to the disability rolls. In fact 3.4 million have been added to the disability rolls since 2008. People who once worked for years find their no longer needed in this new economy. So they go on disability it helps hide the real unemployment numbers. There are no jobs for the tens of millions on disability or tens of millions on welfare and millions on unemployment. Millions have fell off the rolls for unemployment they no longer count. If you ended all government income programs unemployment would be 25%. This would be on top of a underemployment rate of 15% at least. The government wants large numbers of kids to go to college it is a holding pen. It helps knock off 1 to 2% off the unemployment rate. No matter who is power they just do not want social unrest. You can end every thing Friday welfare disability unemployment it will not create one more job. Why because we just do not need the workers we have now. We sure do not need tens of millions more overnight. We will need even less workers in the future it is that simple. The labor rate is 63% and keeps falling a fact no one talks about. The bulk of our job growth being low wage service and temp jobs does not help matters. But no one talks about that we bury our heads.
My "disability" (impairment actually) is real and I have dealt with it all my life. I have a legal professional diagnosis and I am only 21. I am not on reduced-rate SSI because I want to be, nor am I on it because I couldn't find work (I want a job and only a job!!) nor have I chosen it. It was forced onto me by my toxic parents. People used to ask me why I couldn't find a job when I was 16 or 17. Maybe if my parental situation wasn't such a disaster my life right now would have turned out differently. Especially my dad who thinks there is nothing to worry about living on $400 a month for the rest of your life. My dad is what I call the ultra sheeple of america, maybe ultra sheeple of life itself. We talk about people being sheeple for not being awake to this phony system, it goes a step beyond that. We have people like my dad who are sheeple regarding life itself and surviving.
I'm just tired of explaining my situation to people, repeating the same things over, because nothing will ever make people understand. I don't want to live life like this anymore. I have been grasping straws for over 7 years now wondering what the heck I am doing here.
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