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Old 12-14-2013, 12:10 PM
 
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There also a lot of comp sci grads who dont know SQL. I really could not believe we're still importing people for this skill.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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But I would think anyone with a degree, no matter what their age is would have enough intellectual curiosity to learn them even on their own. Finishing college doesn't mean you have to stop learning new things. I don't think age is any excuse.
I must admit one thing I find irritating is older managers, experts or knowledge in some area and will sit there talking like there some sort of guru, but at the same time can't understand how a spreadsheet is put together, formulas etc, I find these people who have been working in offices for years so there is no excuses - Your left wondering if a person cannot understand something in front of them what does that say about there expertise.
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I can never get over how often and serious employers are about asking if you know how to use MS Office, and to rate yourself at it. I'm not talking 20k a year jobs either. I'm talking jobs in the 50's and 60k's that require a degree. I mean if you can't figure out how to do email, spreadsheets, and word documents, then you have issues. Especially if you graduated college! I thought those were the first programs you are taught in college. How do you even graduate college without knowing these programs?
Hello. Not everybody is 25. Some of us graduated college before computers were en vogue. By the way, I am very proficient at MS Office Suite because I took the time and trouble to teach myself. I would be unbelievably ticked off if I spent $400 per credit hour to learn how to use MS Word. Please.

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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But I would think anyone with a degree, no matter what their age is would have enough intellectual curiosity to learn them even on their own. Finishing college doesn't mean you have to stop learning new things. I don't think age is any excuse.
Absolutely. I'd rep you but the system wants me to spread the love around.

I am learning new things every single day. If you don't you fall behind really fast.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Everyone we interview for almost every job is asked to rate themselves on Office, but we recently also started asking about Sharepoint because we all have to use it. Some of our people making well over $100k are not up to doing semi-advanced Excel such as pivot tables and macros but really don't have to. That's more commonly used by people in Finance and Accounting, who set up budget tables to make it easy to plug in numbers. In my group only a couple of us do advanced Excel, and some SQL and autocad, but the others are heavy users of Word and Adobe Acrobat Professional. In addition to the rating I might ask interview questions that help verify or disprove their self-rating.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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But I would think anyone with a degree, no matter what their age is would have enough intellectual curiosity to learn them even on their own. Finishing college doesn't mean you have to stop learning new things. I don't think age is any excuse.
Well, since many of us didn't learn Office in college, when do you think we learned it?
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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But I would think anyone with a degree, no matter what their age is would have enough intellectual curiosity to learn them even on their own. Finishing college doesn't mean you have to stop learning new things. I don't think age is any excuse.

What does that have to do with anything? Perhaps I spend my intellectual curiosity time learning about things I am interested in.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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Well, since many of us didn't learn Office in college, when do you think we learned it?
Work or on your own. I still use these programs on my own at home. And if you have half a brain, you should be able to teach yourself at work without asking someone. And so far into your career you should be aware and know that employers will ask you to learn these programs.
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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I see no one teaches reading comprehension in college these days ...
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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I see no one teaches reading comprehension in college these days ...
You can't teach reading comprehension
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