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nice. so I guess you passed the other requirements
first of all, these roles are for consultants (you work in clients office). these ads are to tell THEM what type of people they try to hire. many consulting firms will help the fill the holes and even build you a new character.
2nd. none of those items are specific, theyre very generic. you can even get your basic accounting and finance knowledge by googling it. get the gist of it and remember that not having an accounting degree is your excuse, yet you still knew about the basics. that's 'awesome' in my book. this skill of 'over representing' yourself is actually what consulting companies need. Do you think the healthcare.gov contract was awarded to highly qualified contractors?
3rd. if youre not strong with a required skill, give them another. Tell them your good at SQL, VBA and other simple stuff
I'm telling you, we do not do complicated things in the professional world.Majoring in Math is harder than doing real world work. Accounting is simple math so I do not get why its not something you can pickup easily. I can wire a whole car, wire my house, add outlets, electric motors, sensors, lighting, data lines etc without any training all because one teacher spent 1 minute telling us about a thing called a fuse. that got me working in multibillion $ systems. now you probably learned a lot more from college than I did. pretty sure you can tackle all the math in the corporate world. they just called things differently... algebra is accounting, statistics is economics/risk management, differential equations are pricing models
and just like any predefined model/laws, there are calculators/tools for that.
I don't really need to know how it works as long as I recite something from that page during my interview and just pretend its been a long time ago
I bet you you can learn basic accounting (skimming) in a week and another for pricing. just the concepts and lingo (aka 'principles' aka 'strong knowledge').
You're 24 and recently graduated college if I recall correctly. You should be 6 or 7 years out of high school, no? Did you not go to college right away....change majors...only go part time...the time doesn't add up. What else did you do in that time?
I was always one of the older kids in my grade. I was 19.5 when I started college, and I took 2 extra quarters, making me 23 when I graduated. I don't see why that's so weird to you. Over 50% of people take over 6 years to complete undergrad school.
I suppose you'll never really know what impact your education/degree will have on your career.
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Can you perform many of the available white-collar, college degree requiring jobs without the knowledge you received in college? For the most part, the answer is probably yes. However, the fact is, most companies require or strongly prefer a college educated person to take on their white-collar jobs in today's job market. They want somebody who has demonstrated the ability to follow through on a large, difficult goal and complete it. They want somebody who has demonstrated the ability to critically think and communicate well. The success of their business in a knowledge-based economy relies on it. And more often than not, a college educated person (from a solid program) will be able to demonstrate this.
Good point. As important, IMHO - going through the chore of classes and seminars requires you to speak in a more professional manner than you can muster as a HS student. Think about it - the typical HS student speaks in 'textese' AND does not think before he/she opens his mouth. Several instances of sounding that ignorant before a cadre of peers, all eager to argue your point, teaches you to speak in whole sentences and to think before blurting out an ill-founded opinion.
For many young people, college is the first experience they have in their lives where it's cool to be well-spoken and smart. This is an invaluable foundation for successful employment.
You're 24 and recently graduated college if I recall correctly. You should be 6 or 7 years out of high school, no? Did you not go to college right away....change majors...only go part time...the time doesn't add up. What else did you do in that time?
I was in that boat too thank you very much. A mixture of me being stupid as well as moving to another state prior to working on an associates. I started in New York in August 2005 (right out of high school) at SUNY Oswego and started up in Arizona in January 2008.
Honestly, I think what you really want is a pity party. Poor you, you were duped into getting a degree that you didn't really need. How unfair it is.
Some employers DO take a chance on people and train them. However, in order for them to do that, you have to come across as someone who is likable, educable, and worthy of that risk over someone else. From your posts, you come across like you think you're better than everyone or that you are above something because of your B.S. degree. The thing is -- you're not above anything and you're not entitled to anything.
I mentioned a long time ago in your post that you should become an actuary with your mathematics skills and that you should pass a test or two and then apply with insurance companies. Nothing. People suggested become a math teacher. Nothing. People suggest trying to become a comissioned-officer in the military. Nothing. It's not the degree that is worthless or not lucrative. A degree has as much value as the person attached to it. People have been able to make a decent living with "non-lucrative majors." Part of that is because they are people others would want to work beside and that managers would like to train.
In my position, it required an IT-related degree, which I didn't have. I don't think any of us actually had one and we all beat out others who did have one, because my boss said he hires based on what he feels is someone's potential to learn than what they already know.
I think the job is out there, but you need to adjust your attitude in the mean time to, "I may not be working where I want to yet, but it doesn't mean my degree is worthless and won't help me get where I want to go."
Then why isn't every math major up the same creek?
They're not because they focus on ways to generate strengths they can point to when these questions come up.
They also likely don't have super-questionable stuff spread all over the Internet, a racist and mysoginist bent, and may be able to recognize where they need further development and take charge of that while they job hunt.
Many would also relocate.
Yes, you are very searchable, Jamin. Your reputation precedes you everywhere you go.
I was always one of the older kids in my grade. I was 19.5 when I started college, and I took 2 extra quarters, making me 23 when I graduated. I don't see why that's so weird to you. Over 50% of people take over 6 years to complete undergrad school.
I never said it was weird. I was trying to figure out where the additional time went to see if you had some experiences that might help you (like a job) or hurt you (like jail) in your quests.
I interviewed the other day at Amazon for a position called "Hazardous Material Specialist." It's an $18/hr, 50-60hrs/wk job that would be my best option after 10 months and over 500 applications to try and capitalize on my education. I really hope I get it. Funny thing is, I could've got that job straight out of high school. It doesn't even require a college degree.
Right now I'm fantasizing about where I would be if I got that job and never went to college. Since I'm a smart and usually motivated guy, I'm sure I would have worked my up the totem poll and maybe taught myself some programming and get in one of the lucrative positions I've tried to get after graduating college. I'm nowhere right now.
Even if a given job does not require your degree, it is likely that future jobs will, so don't assume it was a "waste". This is far too naïve.
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