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Old 08-17-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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First the Elevator Operator.

Then the Gas Station Attendant.

Then most of the secretaries.

The copier salesman.

The TV repairman.

The Bowling Pin Setter.

The Milkman.

The Soda Jerk.

The 12 year old Paperboy.

The grocery stores don't even buy Coke bottles any more, because there are none.

Yeah. Fast Food Clerk is next.
Don't forget the blacksmith, the buggy whip maker, and crewman on a whaling ship.
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Don't forget the blacksmith, the buggy whip maker, and crewman on a whaling ship.


Not quite the same thing. Blacksmiths and buggy whip makers are fairly defunct because of the lack of popularity of their products- not because of automation.


Restaurants meals are remaining popular, the restauranteers are just finding new ways to deliver the same product.
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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I've used them at Sheetz and in my opinion they are significantly superior to using a cashier in both speed and accuracy. It is definitely way better than having a cashier whose grasp of the English language is weak. From a consumer standpoint this would be an improvement. From a national employment rate standpoint - not so much.

It should at least cut down on the consumer complaints when the sandwich is fixed according to what the customer themselves put on the order.
That of course won't help the consumer who put the order in right and the one preparing the order got it wrong.
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:58 AM
 
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Good. Maybe the automated cashiers will get the orders correct and be less rude than the typical McDonald's employee.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:05 AM
 
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$15.00 per hour x 40 hours x 52 weeks a year is just over $31,000/yr gross. Wow, yeah, someone is really going to have a lavish lifestyle on that kind of salary in 2014, huh?

The whole "$15.00 per hour, OMG!" is just a stupid thing the neo-cons have seized on. No one really believes the minimum wage is going to increase to that. Most realistic proposals are for around $10.00/hour. But, as pointed out, automation was going to happen eventually. Soon enough, a guaranteed basic income will come to the US as a result.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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It's like people here think all those millions of redundant service jobs will suddenly be replaced by millions of programming and engineering jobs at Google. High end jobs are already extremely competitive and chances are they will bring in someone from abroad so they can pay a lower rate.
Even if they hire someone for a white collar job, it's usually because they know someone or offered some kind of favor, white collar jobs are absolutely not based on merit. I see so many people in the finance industry that don't understand the basics of accounting.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The whole "$15.00 per hour, OMG!" is just a stupid thing the neo-cons have seized on. No one really believes the minimum wage is going to increase to that. .


I've seen some of the fast food strikers on TV, and they sound like they believe it. And the $15 wage is now a reality in some locations in Washington state.


It wasn't the "neocons" who seized upon the $15 wage thing, unless the SEIU is now a "neocon" outfit.

I don't understand the whole campaign, if it was a serious campaign to organize restaurant workers, the UNITE-HERE has jurisdiction over restaurant employees not the Service Employees union- why aren't they taking the lead?
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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I also agree this would have happened anyway. WaWa is a local example here that just came to town last year (Clearwater, FL) and their automated ordering system is pretty darn awesome.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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. No one really believes the minimum wage is going to increase to that.
It already has. In Mass retail employees that are hourly make time and a half on sundays and the new minimum wage to kick in three years from now is $11/hr.

$11 * 1.5 is $16.5.

So yes $16.5/hr is going to be the minimum wage for retail employees on sundays and holidays (52 weeks a year one sunday a year and 12 or so holidays...) That's about two months out of the year in terms of time or 1/6th 17% of the time they will be making that.

Smaller retailers are going to be crushed by this. Either they'll close or lay people off to become a internet site. Technically the way the law reads they don't have to really show up for these days. So if one works for a smaller one that cannot afford it they'll go to walmart or somewhere else to work there.

Walmart wants the minimum wage to go up. Why? Because they can afford it and others cannot.

It's just like the idea of a progressive income tax system. It then means more power and influence that rich people have over government since they pay for more of it. By lowering taxes it lowers the amount and since it is a private single person vote it pretty much makes people equal. Neocons have nothing to do with it. The left generally tries to help people but in the process destroys their own voter base. It has been this way for 35 or so years now.
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:38 AM
 
Location: USA
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The middle class is ever increasingly being eroded in this country. These chain restaurants and supermarkets rely primarily on the middle class for it's sales. Getting rid of more jobs just shoots themselves in the foot. Of course most retailers and even restaurants are more increasingly accepting SNAP benefit cards
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