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You can also look at it this way...Not everyone who studies engineering, accounting, or computer science is smart enough to get a job...
I'm sure there's quite a few people out there in this world that have these majors and are unemployed whereas those people out there who obtained "useless" degrees are living a decent life on a decent wage.
Something Can be said about living a debt free life with no University degree.
I am not cut out for STEM and I knew this from the get go, I started working immediately after highschool and I make around $22k a year. I do alright for myself and I have no debt.
I won't waste time on liberal arts degree since i'll merely be piling debt on for nothing as my career prospects will remain as they are now.
22k a year doesn't go very far in today's economy. You could get by on that income level, but you will most likely be poor most of your life, and you might not make enough to retire, or retire in extreme poverty.
22k a year doesn't go very far in today's economy. You could get by on that income level, but you will most likely be poor most of your life, and you might not make enough to retire, or retire in extreme poverty.
It really depends on where you live and what your goals in life are. The guy below is doing fine on that amount of income.
The main reason why people get useless degrees is because the curriculum is easy and basically a joke. The fact of the matter is that not everyone has the intellectual capability and commitment to get a degree in engineering, accounting, or computer science.
Common graduate programs that people with useless degrees tend to purse is JD, PsyD, MBA, Master in useless subject.
If you have a useless degree and don't want to do sales, what are your options at a good paying white collar job?
You're right. The solution is for every student in the world to get degrees in engineering, accounting, computer science, or healthcare. All other university programs in every educational institution should/will be dismantled. Anyone not pursuing STEM will be directed into the trades.
Problem solved.
Yep, society no longer has a need for all those "useless" people, like writers, journalists, sociologists, psychologists, librarians, archeologists, historians, photographers, educators, interpreters, anthropologists, broadcasters, researchers, editors, counselors, filmmakers, advertising reps, etc. Nah, who needs 'em?
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So, I guess the solution is for every student in the world to get degrees in engineering, accounting or computer science. Every other university program in every university should/will be dismantled.
Problem solved.
I hope that is sarcasm (there's no knowing in tone on posts.) That said we need people in the medical field and trades (which aren't incentified because it's about "college, college, college" in K12 education) for instance.
I hope that is sarcasm (there's no knowing in tone on posts.) That said we need people in the medical field and trades (which aren't incentified because it's about "college, college, college" in K12 education) for instance.
Okay. Edited my post accordingly.
Yes, my post was sarcasm from beginning to end.
I agree with you. I think WAY too many people go to four-year colleges, and that there are plenty of excellent careers that do not need such extensive education/training. And yes, people with STEM degrees (seem to) have more job opportunities. For now.
I'll also admit that, though I love what I do, I now realize (in my 40s) that there are a couple of STEM careers I would have probably enjoyed just as much.
Having said that, this notion that the only worthwhile university education is STEM and only STEM is ridiculous, short sighted and, quite frankly, pretty scary.
22k a year doesn't go very far in today's economy. You could get by on that income level, but you will most likely be poor most of your life, and you might not make enough to retire, or retire in extreme poverty.
Wow, you seem to know an awful lot about someone and their future based on a couple of lines on a message board. Fact is I know plenty of college graduates making less than $22,000 a year, in fact 25% of all college graduates make less than the average high school graduate. Fact is you never know what someone may find to make money, nor do you know someones life goals or intelligence from a post or two on the internet, and there is no guarantees what the future will hold for any of us.
I agree with you. I think WAY too many people go to four-year colleges, and that there are plenty of excellent careers that do not need such extensive education/training. And yes, people with STEM degrees (seem to) have more job opportunities. For now.
I'll also admit that, though I love what I do, I now realize (in my 40s) that there are a couple of STEM careers I would have probably enjoyed just as much.
Having said that, this notion that the only worthwhile university education is STEM and only STEM is ridiculous, short sighted and, quite frankly, pretty scary.
I don't believe everyone should go to college. Some people would be better off learning a trade. College was traditionally only for the wealthy, but soon the middle class and lower class started wanting college too. Now we have too many college graduates and not enough white collar jobs to go around for everyone who wants one. Many tradespeople say they can't find apprentices to work for them, because young people these days have no interest in learning things like AC repair or plumbing. The guy who did my AC repair work makes 100K a year.
One of the ugly burdens we hang on kids is the belief that unless they go to college and end up with a job where they dress nicely and sit at a desk all day they are losers.
One of the hottest tickets for youngsters here in LA is a school named Bosco Tech where kids graduate with not only a strong fundamental education in Communications, Math, History, and the sciences, but with real job skills. BT grads are in great demand in a number of vocational areas and many have gone on to run highly successful businesses.
Yeah, it's a Catholic School, with a big waiting list and yes, it's all boys, no it isn't cheap at about $10K per year but I have never heard one family say it wasn't worth it. Too bad our school districts can't find a way to provide a similar product for their students.
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