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Old 12-02-2018, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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The sad part. Jeff Bezos, the wealthiest man in the world, the founder, chairman and CEO and they operate like this. Dont use Amazon.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Well I kind of look at it like the same way I look at Walmart positions. Not to sound too cold but if people do not think it's worth it then they should find another job. I'm not sure what is to be expected in terms of pay for totally unskilled work. I see no reason to boycott Amazon, or Walmart for that matter, as both are simply making jobs available that nobody is forcing anyone to accept.
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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I'm no Amazon cheerleader...to me Amazon is no more evil than any other company, and less so than some (Monsanto) and what I object to here is random complaints that are based on simple political differences. Otherwise it makes NO sense to complain Amazon is not paying enough, when $15 an hour is much higher than min wage here and much higher than most unskilled jobs pay.
I think it makes tremendous sense. I'd bet Mr Bezos knows darn good and well that $15 an hour is not enough for tens of millions of americans to be able to pay rent and eat, have electricity, heat, some form of reliable transportation, and maybe, just maybe, get a prescription filled when they need to or go see a dentist if they absolutely must. These are basics. But if the person has a child? Oh my. Even if $15 an hour is much higher than some states' minimum wage and higher than what some other companies pay, if it can't be lived on it is not enough. And I'm not thinking about politics at all right now.
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I think it makes tremendous sense. I'd bet Mr Bezos knows darn good and well that $15 an hour is not enough for tens of millions of americans to be able to pay rent and eat, have electricity, heat, some form of reliable transportation, and maybe, just maybe, get a prescription filled when they need to or go see a dentist if they absolutely must. These are basics. But if the person has a child? Oh my. Even if $15 an hour is much higher than some states' minimum wage and higher than what some other companies pay, if it can't be lived on it is not enough. And I'm not thinking about politics at all right now.

Are you aware of what retail pays? A desk clerk at a motel? Every single restaurant? The people who pick up your trash or direct traffic during road construction? They do not approach $15/hour by the way. It appears as if you have set yourself up to boycott every single business if this is your bar.
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Are you aware of what retail pays? A desk clerk at a motel? Every single restaurant? The people who pick up your trash or direct traffic during road construction? They do not approach $15/hour by the way. It appears as if you have set yourself up to boycott every single business if this is your bar.
Chick-Fil-A here is hiring for $11/hr. Panda Express is about the same. Aldi starts the bottom workers at $16/hr. There all sorts of entry level jobs in manufacturing around here for $15 or so.

IMO, if someone can't make $15/hr, they aren't trying.
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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Chick-Fil-A here is hiring for $11/hr. Panda Express is about the same. Aldi starts the bottom workers at $16/hr. There all sorts of entry level jobs in manufacturing around here for $15 or so.

IMO, if someone can't make $15/hr, they aren't trying.
Shhh... You can't say that here. You will be labeled as a Corporate Apologist.

It's unethical for successful business owners to try to get their desired results at the lowest possible price within the boundaries of the law.
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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I think it makes tremendous sense. I'd bet Mr Bezos knows darn good and well that $15 an hour is not enough for tens of millions of americans to be able to pay rent and eat, have electricity, heat, some form of reliable transportation, and maybe, just maybe, get a prescription filled when they need to or go see a dentist if they absolutely must. These are basics. But if the person has a child? Oh my. Even if $15 an hour is much higher than some states' minimum wage and higher than what some other companies pay, if it can't be lived on it is not enough. And I'm not thinking about politics at all right now.
Okay, so why aren't people here complaining about McDonalds, Olive Garden, Home Depot, Target, Walmart, movie theaters and the majority of low skilled jobs that only pay minimum wage? Amazon pays almost twice as much as those places do in NJ, so, no, I can't see that it makes any sense at all to blame them for the prevailing low wages that have been around for decades. If $15.00 an hour isn't enough to live on, how is $8 not worse?


BTW, when there have been threads on here about raising min wage to $15, the vast majority of posters are dead set against it.
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Chick-Fil-A here is hiring for $11/hr. Panda Express is about the same. Aldi starts the bottom workers at $16/hr. There all sorts of entry level jobs in manufacturing around here for $15 or so.

IMO, if someone can't make $15/hr, they aren't trying.
This depends where you are. In NJ, with a much higher cost of living than Tennessee, Chic-Fil-A pays $9.00 an hour:


From Indeed:
We have a part-time/full-time opening for a Chick-fil-A Team Member. At Chick-fil-A, the team member role is more than just a job, it's an opportunity. Team members gain life experience that goes far beyond just serving a great product in a friendly environment. Chick-fil-A is a great opportunity for people of all ages and backgrounds, and no food service experience is necessary. Must be able to work various shifts per week and be available weekdays and weekends.
Job Types: Full-time, Part-time
Salary: $9.00 /hour
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Chick-Fil-A here is hiring for $11/hr. Panda Express is about the same. Aldi starts the bottom workers at $16/hr. There all sorts of entry level jobs in manufacturing around here for $15 or so.

IMO, if someone can't make $15/hr, they aren't trying.

There are also plenty of jobs, such as the ones I listed, that pay less. I kind of struggle to believe Chick Fil A pays even $11/hour as the post above indicated. But again $11/hour is not $15/hour. And again these are jobs with no skills, they should not be paying much so this Amazon Flex does not appear to be such a bad deal if you ask me.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Are you aware of what retail pays? A desk clerk at a motel? Every single restaurant? The people who pick up your trash or direct traffic during road construction? They do not approach $15/hour by the way. It appears as if you have set yourself up to boycott every single business if this is your bar.
Huh? I'm not boycotting anything. Not mad at anyone either. I was just responding to another poster who said that because Mr Bezos pays $15 an hour for work at a certain skill level and many other businesses pay less for that skill level then it makes no sense to claim Mr. Bezos does not pay "enough". I said it makes sense to me. There are tens of millions of americans for whom $15 an hour won't meet the most basic of needs so for them it is most assuredly not enough, and I'm sure Bezos is aware of this. I added that I wasn't talking politics. (I was talking arithmetic. Speaking of which a quick search shows it looks like the people who drive the trash trucks around here make $1150 a week.)
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