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True, but why would expect a center city to easy to park in? Makes it feel rather vacant if there's parking everywhere. I actually notice some surprisingly cheap parking in San Francisco near downtown though. From an international perspective, easy parking in the center city and having surface lots is rather unusual. San Francisco would seem much more "normal" to most visitors than Los Angeles in that respect.
Where in my post did I say "center city"? I said San Francisco and that's all 49 square miles of it.
Where in my post did I say "center city"? I said San Francisco and that's all 49 square miles of it.
The post I was responding to mentioned "even in downtown". When I mentioned San Francisco, I was referring to in or around downtown. You responded to that post.
The post I was responding to mentioned "even in downtown". When I mentioned San Francisco, I was referring to in or around downtown. You responded to that post.
I did not say downtown so address that part of it with the person who said it. I said parking in SF is an absolute nightmare because it is.
Los Angeles is a nice place to live but I would never want to visit there. Dispersed, hard for the non-resident to navigate, etc.
This situation will improve once Phase II of the Expo Line opens in late 2015 or early 2016 (providing a rail link from Santa Monica to Downtown LA). Once complete there will be rail connections linking Santa Monica, Downtown LA, Hollywood and Pasadena. Though far from a perfect solution, it will be a vast improvement. Many Asian and European tourists already use the rail and bus system when they visit....this will make getting around easier and less of a hassle.
Los Angeles obviously
First impression where you get there : where's the city ?
Not much to see, only a few spots here and there (hollywood, santa monica, venice beach, beverly hills)
Cool vibe but at the end of the day visiting L.A is like visiting a collection of very small villages surrounded by suburban wasteland. The city is huge but it has less to offer to the tourist than one single arrondissement of Paris
LA is the entertainment capital of the world besides Las Vegas. There are tons of things to see/do even though it is spread out.
I guarantee is gonna be Houston
Houston is one of the biggest cities in the US and I know small towns such as New Braunfels (pop. 60,000) that have more things to do than Houston.
Los Angeles obviously
First impression where you get there : where's the city ?
Not much to see, only a few spots here and there (hollywood, santa monica, venice beach, beverly hills)
Cool vibe but at the end of the day visiting L.A is like visiting a collection of very small villages surrounded by suburban wasteland. The city is huge but it has less to offer to the tourist than one single arrondissement of Paris
Just curious, but what do most tourists think LA is going to be like? To me it is exactly like it seems: a big, spread out city, good/bad areas, diverse, etc.
Los Angeles obviously
First impression where you get there : where's the city ?
Not much to see, only a few spots here and there (hollywood, santa monica, venice beach, beverly hills)
Cool vibe but at the end of the day visiting L.A is like visiting a collection of very small villages surrounded by suburban wasteland. The city is huge but it has less to offer to the tourist than one single arrondissement of Paris
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Originally Posted by ryever
From an international tourist perspective there isn't much to do
Like even compared to a second tier European city like Barcelona, the difference is huge
Within 2 days you've seen all the interesting stuff, 1 day might be enough if you're in a hurry
Now if you're interesting in knowing L.A and what the "city" is really about it would take you much more I agree, but that's true for any city on Earth
While I agree L.A. isn't what its cracked up to be, to compare it to Paris or Barcelona is quite unfair. These last two are high density cities, of course a single neighborhood will offer more than a bunch of neighborhoods in L.A. High density, that's why. Its also the same reason why there are neighborhoods in Manhattan, NY that have more Starbucks than entire cities in the suburbs. Density, that's why. One block in Manhattan easily has a residential population the size of entire cities in the suburbs.
But L.A. would had been much better if it was built on the European city model, in fact most American cities would had been better like that.
Ah well, too late now!
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