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Old 12-05-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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that is an odd comment. Don't you need to speak English in the US/Australia, French in France and German in Germany? It applies to all countries, even in countries where English is widely used as a second language.
I know, but not many westerners are going to speak Japanese well enough to want to live in Japan for the long term.

English to French or English to German is an easier transition, although still not easy.
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Maybe in 1998, but since we're approaching 2018, in my opinion: UAE/Dubai, Japan, Israel, Greece. Maybe Hong Kong too...
Hong Kong represents 1998, not 2018 my friend. Its best days are long gone.

Live in HK? Did you know the average living space in HK is less than 150sf (14 sq m)? That's equivalent to two prison cells. Good luck enjoy your "life" there.

https://qz.com/index/1118490/in-a-ci...r-150-million/
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Old 12-05-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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Best countries to live, regardless of work??

Nobody beats southern Europe, especially Spain, Italy, south of France....weather, history, architecture, food, culture, you are a cheap and short plane ride from amazing places.

Very career oriented/high achiever/incredibly talented in science, technology, finance and loving open spaces?? The US is still the place to go. The UK offers a lot of opportunities as well in some professions..same for Germany and both enjoy the already mentioned attribute of having everything close.

Australia is the perfect blend of some US lifestyle attributes, a European laid back environment towards work and great weather. Being close to Asia is a plus for some.

If you know Spanish or Portuguese you can definitely find good opportunities in some Latin American countries with good quality of life.

Canada is good but not as desirable as Europe, the US or Australia (and the weather is a factor not to mention that is not that different from the US).

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Old 12-05-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Australia and NZ are the best right now IMO. Canada is pretty good too.
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Old 12-05-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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Best countries to live, regardless of work??

Nobody beats southern Europe, especially Spain, Italy, south of France....weather, history, architecture, food, culture, you are a cheap and short plane ride from amazing places.

Very career oriented/high achiever/incredibly talented in science, technology, finance and loving open spaces?? The US is still the place to go. The UK offers a lot of opportunities as well in some professions..same for Germany and both enjoy the already mentioned attribute of having everything close.

Australia is the perfect blend of some US lifestyle attributes, a European laid back environment towards work and great weather. Being close to Asia is a plus for some.

If you know Spanish or Portuguese you can definitely find good opportunities in some Latin American countries with good quality of life.

Canada is good but not as desirable as Europe, the US or Australia (and the weather is a factor not to mention that is not that different from the US).
Good summary.

Canada is also becoming a poor value for money proposition as the cost of living drives higher without a commensurate improvement in the qualities of living here. Europe, USA and Australia are still tops.
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Good summary.

Canada is also becoming a poor value for money proposition as the cost of living drives higher without a commensurate improvement in the qualities of living here. Europe, USA and Australia are still tops.
A lot of places aren't good value for money in Europe for long term living IMO. Places like the UK, Switzerland and the Nordic countries come to mind. Some like Spain and Portugal are pretty good if you can bring your money with you from elsewhere.
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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A lot of places aren't good value for money in Europe for long term living IMO.
Yes but you get other "perks" in Europe.....Canada does not offer a significant different experience compared to the US which has a lower cost of living.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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Best countries to live, regardless of work??

Nobody beats southern Europe, especially Spain, Italy, south of France....weather, history, architecture, food, culture, you are a cheap and short plane ride from amazing places.

Very career oriented/high achiever/incredibly talented in science, technology, finance and loving open spaces?? The US is still the place to go. The UK offers a lot of opportunities as well in some professions..same for Germany and both enjoy the already mentioned attribute of having everything close.

Australia is the perfect blend of some US lifestyle attributes, a European laid back environment towards work and great weather. Being close to Asia is a plus for some.

If you know Spanish or Portuguese you can definitely find good opportunities in some Latin American countries with good quality of life.

Canada is good but not as desirable as Europe, the US or Australia (and the weather is a factor not to mention that is not that different from the US).
Australian work hours are actually among the longest around. Our annual holidays are less than those of Europe but more than of the US and Canada. The retirement age here is higher than in a lot of Europe too.
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Not for quality of life. USA hardly ranks at all. As someone who was born and raised here, it's really not such a great place to be any more. If your life is work--and you have a good job it's ok. But the COL is way ahead of wages, the gun violence is awful, and the political climate is pretty horrendous. I have a great job, but as soon as I can--I'm leaving for a country with a better quality of life.

Americans are a pretty miserable bunch these days.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...life-full-list

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-li...by_country.jsp

InterNations: Countries with the best quality of life in the world for expats - Business Insider
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Old 12-05-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Australian work hours are actually among the longest around. Our annual holidays are less than those of Europe but more than of the US and Canada. The retirement age here is higher than in a lot of Europe too.

I thought you guys enjoy 4 or even 5 weeks mandatory holidays, stronger union culture compared to the US, etc...
The US has no federal mandatory holidays, Canada has 2 weeks.
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