Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

Chaos, regularity, the descriptions -laws- of Nature and order inhere in Nature. Were there eternal God, He'd depend on them to function, so that He'd be a secondary cause as with us! Yes, I just now found that He'd be on our level in that aspect but I already regarded Him as that secondary cause.
Yes, the Fuller-Lamberth the argument from inherency does find Him so!
Theists, unless you can give at least a general manner about how He functions, why, you have no case whatsoever

Originally Posted by futbol

That lifestyle description puts an interesting spin on this account of that event. Most of us are indoors and isolated. People outside most of the day will see things.

Best wishes Carlos.

Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

We naturalists would expect evil due to natural conditions.Again,Aquinas' superfluity argument emerges: why introduce God as that second and superfluous hypothesis to explain what is already explained? Theists cannot explain evil but always rationalize why He fails to overcome it!
Remember,ti's not what putative God wants but what morality dictates! He has no rights over us!Might does not make right!
His putative omnisicence is a red herring, because we know enough that

Originally Posted by Carneades-SkepticGriggsy

I approve Kant's dictum to treat others as human beings,not as things. Thus, I rate higher than putative God who grants purposes to His " things"- human beings! What a travesty and blasphemy against humanity to urge people to get their divine purpose!
We make our own meanings and purposes, we get and give love and this one life suffices; We need no divine purpose and divine love and future state.
Morality binds even Gods! Morality denies the divine right of divine rights!