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Old 05-02-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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I do think it is an important subject that should be discussed reasonably, though.


It's the emotions... on both sides..... that are alarming. Look at the way Nugent describes this hunt himself:


"I drew my bow and looked at his hulking chest behind the massive shoulder and let fly. I shot too fast, my entire, long archery life lessons of control and discipline destroyed by the electricity of it all as the deadly projectile zinged harmlessly over the monster's back, sticking hard into a tree beyond.
Damn! The hoary, black locomotive lurched instantly and vanished into a slight depression as I yanked another arrow from my quiver and dashed up the incline to see him slowly walking beneath giant deadfalls. Instinctively my second arrow came back unto itself and was gone across the 20-yard gap right now. My glowing Luminok lighted arrow nock showed the mystical flight of my arrow like a lazerbeam as it punched hard into the rear ribs, angling forward into the beast's life giving vitals. Oh baby! How sweet it is! I'd rather be lucky than good anytime. Thank you Lord. Youdaman!
Finds Good Blood, Tracks
Breathless, Steve and Toby now joined me at the crest of BearHill, and we gushed with the excitement that only bear hunters on the ground, face to face with such a beast can possibly understand. It was Nugent partytime! Toby was not able to crest the hump with me in order to film the second shot, so I reviewed the spine tingling details with my BloodBrothers as we strategize our next move."



You guys can google this yourself if you can stand to read it. Talk about emotional, hyperbolic, persuasive writing.....
The problem is, there are people reading this, who want to come up and run around acting just like this guy. Too many people.

I know that the Tongass is my home, but it belongs to all of us and we should all care about what happens here.

 
Old 05-02-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK
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Originally Posted by Wrennie View Post
I do think it is an important subject that should be discussed reasonably, though.


It's the emotions... on both sides..... that are alarming. Look at the way Nugent describes this hunt himself:


"I drew my bow and looked at his hulking chest behind the massive shoulder and let fly. I shot too fast, my entire, long archery life lessons of control and discipline destroyed by the electricity of it all as the deadly projectile zinged harmlessly over the monster's back, sticking hard into a tree beyond.
Damn! The hoary, black locomotive lurched instantly and vanished into a slight depression as I yanked another arrow from my quiver and dashed up the incline to see him slowly walking beneath giant deadfalls. Instinctively my second arrow came back unto itself and was gone across the 20-yard gap right now. My glowing Luminok lighted arrow nock showed the mystical flight of my arrow like a lazerbeam as it punched hard into the rear ribs, angling forward into the beast's life giving vitals. Oh baby! How sweet it is! I'd rather be lucky than good anytime. Thank you Lord. Youdaman!
Finds Good Blood, Tracks
Breathless, Steve and Toby now joined me at the crest of BearHill, and we gushed with the excitement that only bear hunters on the ground, face to face with such a beast can possibly understand. It was Nugent partytime! Toby was not able to crest the hump with me in order to film the second shot, so I reviewed the spine tingling details with my BloodBrothers as we strategize our next move."



You guys can google this yourself if you can stand to read it. Talk about emotional, hyperbolic, persuasive writing.....
The problem is, there are people reading this, who want to come up and run around acting just like this guy. Too many people.

I know that the Tongass is my home, but it belongs to all of us and we should all care about what happens here.
That bit reads precisely like bad pornography. Only the subject matter is different.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Right.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: In my own world
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Notice how he describes the bear as a monster. He is one sick dude.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK
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I could understand such a feeling, if a wild animal had invaded his home or was threatening him or his family. That is not the case here.

Most hunters do not vilify their prey like this. Maybe he did it for dramatic effect, but if so, it is, as I said just, another kind of porn, the kind devoured by frustrated adolescents. Too bad he didn't shoot it with his c o c k. That would almost certainly have left it unscathed.

Last edited by LittleJazzyP; 05-02-2012 at 07:52 PM.. Reason: Tired of being coy about this stuff.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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That's probably exactly what he was shooting it with in his fantasies, Jazzy.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK
868 posts, read 1,426,095 times
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I have nothing but respect for responsible hunters, who are grateful for the gift of food to eat or fur/hides with which to protect themselves from the elements. I would rather eat game than factory-farmed meat. I want to learn to hunt, myself, for good, healthy food.

Nugent's comments, and those of people like him, show NONE of this gratitude, or even basic respect, for local laws and practices, for the animals they hunt, for nature itself. He wasn't even trying to develop his skill as a hunter, since he would rather be "lucky" than good.

I know lots of you hunt, and I know lots of you support Nugent's political views. But really, do any of you support his love of killing just for the sake of killing? Yes, it makes me emotional, and the emotion I feel is outrage. You should feel it, too, when you read BS like that.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Originally Posted by Wrennie View Post
I do think it is an important subject that should be discussed reasonably, though.


It's the emotions... on both sides..... that are alarming. Look at the way Nugent describes this hunt himself:


"I drew my bow and looked at his hulking chest behind the massive shoulder and let fly. I shot too fast, my entire, long archery life lessons of control and discipline destroyed by the electricity of it all as the deadly projectile zinged harmlessly over the monster's back, sticking hard into a tree beyond.
Damn! The hoary, black locomotive lurched instantly and vanished into a slight depression as I yanked another arrow from my quiver and dashed up the incline to see him slowly walking beneath giant deadfalls. Instinctively my second arrow came back unto itself and was gone across the 20-yard gap right now. My glowing Luminok lighted arrow nock showed the mystical flight of my arrow like a lazerbeam as it punched hard into the rear ribs, angling forward into the beast's life giving vitals. Oh baby! How sweet it is! I'd rather be lucky than good anytime. Thank you Lord. Youdaman!
Finds Good Blood, Tracks
Breathless, Steve and Toby now joined me at the crest of BearHill, and we gushed with the excitement that only bear hunters on the ground, face to face with such a beast can possibly understand. It was Nugent partytime! Toby was not able to crest the hump with me in order to film the second shot, so I reviewed the spine tingling details with my BloodBrothers as we strategize our next move."



You guys can google this yourself if you can stand to read it. Talk about emotional, hyperbolic, persuasive writing.....
The problem is, there are people reading this, who want to come up and run around acting just like this guy. Too many people.

I know that the Tongass is my home, but it belongs to all of us and we should all care about what happens here.
Of course emotions on both sides, but I am not talking about other places (news, forums, and so forth), just about emotions in this thread and forum.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Originally Posted by gobrien View Post
I don't thing anyone commenting here has a PETA membership, unless it's people eating tasty animals. I don't read threads I'm not interested in, such as what is the best gun for protection or cameras or the best vehicles for Alaska. I don't know why it matters if people feel emotional about hunting methods.
To understand you would have to reread the post on which I quoted the specific words as written by another poster, one who does not agree with bear baiting in SE.
 
Old 05-02-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, AK
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Of course emotions on both sides, but I am not talking about other places (news, forums, and so forth), just about emotions in this thread and forum.
That doesn't make any sense, Ray. Outside events, and the emotions behind them, will always be relevant here, unless we want to limit our discussions to whether or not Rance (sorry, dude) is a good mayor of CD Anchorage.

That clip was something Nugent said. How can it possibly not have an impact on our discussion here, about Nugent?
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