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100 years ago the Balfour Declaration was two years old and Jews constituted about 3 % of the population scattered about the lands formerly controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
That has changed, spectacularly so starting in 1948.
100 years ago the Balfour Declaration was two years old and Jews constituted about 3 % of the population scattered about the lands formerly controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
That has changed, spectacularly so starting in 1948.
I think being under the occupation of the Ottoman Empire was also difficult for the Arab peoples. But yes several ideas after the Great War mainly led by Anglo American resulted in Europe and the Middle East having grave problems.
And seeing as this thread is about what has happened in Canads, it is not Eddie Balfour.
i think being under the occupation of the ottoman empire was also difficult for the arab peoples. But yes several ideas after the great war mainly led by anglo american resulted in europe and the middle east having grave problems.
And seeing as this thread is about what has happened in canads, it is not eddie balfour.
I admit I don't know what is going on over there. I suspect women with Burkas make locals uncomfortable. I assume that as western societies are becoming more secular now they have to deal with imported religious fundamentalists and that creates an issue. I could be wrong and I would welcome your input.
For example in England they teach sex education in schools. Some of those schools are now Muslim majority and the parents are protesting to delete the sex ed from the curriculum.
As I said, I suspect this is about Islam and to appear fair they have to include other groups. Correct me if I am wrong. Or who knows---------- maybe some people cannot stand the legacy of cultural Christianity in Western nations.
Yes part of this is what is behind what is going on in Quebec. The society has been progressively more secular since the 60s but now there are signs things might be going in the other direction. So this is a line in the sand so we can stay the course.
Nostalgia for Christianity has nothing to do with it.
That's a poor argument. Consideration of the results of actions taken should be at least part of government's considerations. public sentiments about something they'd like to do is always considered. Possible violent reaction to something else is another.
But this is a sound point. And (if they are indeed considering these matters at all - they may go ahead, and damn' the reaction) consideration of how such laws work in other countries would be something worth considering.
As I said, it has been discussed on and off here for 10 years. We have had travelling consultative commissions. And previous attempts at legislation. This is the total opposite to pulling something out of a hat.
If that's how certain people interpret it, then good, because you probably wouldn't want such persons employed the State.
Do you not see the logical progression or out-growth under the current climate?
A Muslim goes to the government for services and only wants to deal with another Muslim; a christian with another christian; a Jew with another Jew and so on which is defacto segregation.
And, some might come to believe they were treated unfairly by someone of another religious persuasion.
That's the logical end result under the current climate, not just in Canada and the US, but globally.
This is an argument often made by supporters of this bill.
I don't know much about Canadian law, but Canada is a signatory to the Convention on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. It might take quite a few years to resolve, but that's one outlet.
Is that the UN? Does the convention or body have any teeth?
Most of the time they can't even prevent tinpot dictators from committing genocide, but they are gonna pull out all the stops against Quebec because judges have to remove their kippa on the bench?
As I said, it has been discussed on and off here for 10 years. We have had travelling consultative commissions. And previous attempts at legislation. This is the total opposite to pulling something out of a hat.
Was it the previous attempt that included clients and users of government services including riders of public transit?
Here I am not sure if I've seen a woman in a Burka but lots covering their hair and heads. Very similar to the many Mennonite and Hutterite women but darker in colour of the cloth. It also seems like Muslim girls start coveting their hair at an older age than the other two groups.
I'd argue that all of these are, in fact, "choices".
I know Sikhs who don't wear turbans and long beards, and I know tons of Muslim women (non-lapsed BTW) who don't wear hijabs or anything of that sort.
Interesting. I don't know any Sikhs who don't wear turbans--or maybe I do and don't know that they are Sikhs!
But I clearly said "some sects of Islam" re the hijabs. The President of the company I work for is a Muslim woman who does not cover her hair, so of course I know that not all of them do.
I am in the NYC metro area, and I spent 20 years working at the WTC, so I enjoy the differences. I know that's not the case in many other places.
I do agree with the concern with covered faces, though.
Was it the previous attempt that included clients and users of government services including riders of public transit?
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This law includes that. You need to show your face when you flash your transit pass on boarding a bus, for example.
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