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Pushing an agenda to control or eradicate whatever religion other people have is a HUGE problem.
Except when it's christians doing the eradicating.
If christians had their way, Atheists wouldn't be able to hold public office, or any government job or any job at all. No one would even be allowed to be an Atheist.
Funny how you have no problem for the blatant discrimination of Agnostics and Atheists.
The whole reason my mother took my sister and I to a Methodist church was because of blatant christian discrimination, bigotry, prejudice and coercion.
Those people would never have allowed my mother to hold any position or standing in the PTA without their approval, and the only way to get their approval was to show up at church and Sunday school on Sundays.
That's why all religion is bad, because it uses bigotry to coerce.
There's no harm in eradicating religion. Showing people a better way is always beneficial.
My choice of weapons is logic and reason. Contrast that with the religious who use swords and rifles, and christians would no qualms using nukes.
As you know, once religion is taken away there cannot be a well ordered, well regulated society.
It is dying with no help from the atheists. Logic dictates that religion will die. The issue is: What will humans use to feed their tribalism? And the tribe requires 100% loyalty to whatever creed they have.
You may be right - that it is dying without help from atheism - but we'll keep pouring bullets into the knackered nag just to make sure the process continues.
Patriotism. Xenophobia. Unless rational education enables us to understand what evolution did to is in order to have the individual, tribe and species survive.
You may be right - that it is dying without help from atheism - but we'll keep pouring bullets into the knackered nag just to make sure the process continues.
Patriotism. Xenophobia. Unless rational education enables us to understand what evolution did to is in order to have the individual, tribe and species survive.
Ha, ha. The movie is a good example as how hard it is to eradicate 200,000 years of evolution in one generation or two.
In the old days cultural changes took centuries and now it only takes a decade or two. The rapid cultural change is way ahead of the biology. The amygdala and the rest of the limbic system is still there. The imprints of 200,000 years are not that easy to erase. In fact, I predict that in a moment of stress, tension, famine, and anger you could lose your cool and refuse to sing Kum-baya with members of the other tribe.
In the same manner the GOOD moments of life can bring people of different tribes together if they share something in common. Robert Sapolsky, describes this in the 1914 Xmas miracle. His views are 100% atheistic on this subject. I suggest you read his book:
BTW, your tribal nature made you sound just like Mircea. See what I mean? The horse is dead, no worries.
Except when it's christians doing the eradicating.
If christians had their way, Atheists wouldn't be able to hold public office, or any government job or any job at all. No one would even be allowed to be an Atheist.
Funny how you have no problem for the blatant discrimination of Agnostics and Atheists.
The whole reason my mother took my sister and I to a Methodist church was because of blatant christian discrimination, bigotry, prejudice and coercion.
Those people would never have allowed my mother to hold any position or standing in the PTA without their approval, and the only way to get their approval was to show up at church and Sunday school on Sundays.
That's why all religion is bad, because it uses bigotry to coerce.
There's no harm in eradicating religion. Showing people a better way is always beneficial.
My choice of weapons is logic and reason. Contrast that with the religious who use swords and rifles, and christians would no qualms using nukes.
As you know, once religion is taken away there cannot be a well ordered, well regulated society.
Ha, ha. The movie is a good example as how hard it is to eradicate 200,000 years of evolution in one generation or two.
In the old days cultural changes took centuries and now it only takes a decade or two. The rapid cultural change is way ahead of the biology. The amygdala and the rest of the limbic system is still there. The imprints of 200,000 years are not that easy to erase. In fact, I predict that in a moment of stress, tension, famine, and anger you could lose your cool and refuse to sing Kum-baya with members of the other tribe.
In the same manner the GOOD moments of life can bring people of different tribes together if they share something in common. Robert Sapolsky, describes this in the 1914 Xmas miracle. His views are 100% atheistic on this subject. I suggest you read his book:
BTW, your tribal nature made you sound just like Mircea. See what I mean? The horse is dead, no worries.
Nobody says it will be easy, but understanding it is the first step. What i do is no more tribal than scientists realising that a theory has to be revised. i reckon it's 'tribal thinking' that makes you see it as something else.
Nobody says it will be easy, but understanding it is the first step. What i do is no more tribal than scientists realising that a theory has to be revised. i reckon it's 'tribal thinking' that makes you see it as something else.
Another terrible component of tribalism is assuming that the other tribe is evil and 100% wrong with no possibility of agreeing in the middle. I have seen that first hand multiple times and it happens in non religious tribal groups.
I highly recommend you read Sapolsky. He is an atheist so you have nothing to lose.
No one denies religion is on the way out. There is no need for religion in 2019. Religion was needed in ancient times and now we are in modern times. Thanks for beating the dead horse again!
Actually, over the past couple of years that I've been on here, quite a few posters have argued that religion is not on the way out at all.
Another terrible component of tribalism is assuming that the other tribe is evil and 100% wrong with no possibility of agreeing in the middle. I have seen that first hand multiple times and it happens in non religious tribal groups.
I highly recommend you read Sapolsky. He is an atheist so you have nothing to lose.
I recommend
(a) you start listening and stop repeating the same debunked arguments.
(b) you stop waving books under my nose. If you have an argument (new one - not old repeated debunked one) to make, make it. The 'You are wrong because of this book' ploy is not going to work.
Nor will the pejorative epithets like 'tribalism' or 'newbie atheist'. Me? . That just makes you look ridiculous. I may not be well informed, educated, clever, logical or able to post well, but nobody can say that I am a newbie in atheist apologetics - not without looking completely idiotic, at least.
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. That just makes you look ridiculous. I may not be well informed, educated, clever, logical or able to post well, but nobody can say that I am a newbie in atheist apologetics - not without looking completely idiotic, at least.
