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Apparently, you don't know much about simple physics. The heavier the vehicle, the harder it is on roadways, not to mention pollution. Obviously less educated people are going to drive giant SUVs and empty pickups, because they are not advanced vehicles. These large vehicles are in 70's mode.
I stick by my original statement. It isn't about poor, it is more about education. The example given was Trader Joe's, which is actually a reasonably priced place to shop with great quality in comparison to Walmart and McDonalds. You will see the overweight poorer people at the Walmarts and McDonalds. Of course these are general observations and like most statistics, they don't mean ALL poor, or ALL educated, or ALL anything. Just MORE, not ALL.
Oh and when you call someone a name like, "elitist liberal", do you think that strengthens your argument and makes you sound intelligent?
Why then make an anecdotal statement?
Weren't we taught as children not to judge a book by its cover?
Why is it acceptable that some Prius owner can question me, or ignorantly call me poor because I drive a truck and an SUV (mpg 18 & 15 respectively) but they don't give the guy driving the 13-15 mpg Maserati any flak? Gas Mileage of 2014 Vehicles by Maserati
PS -- I am a college-educated, small business owner who shops at Trader Joes and Walmart, and who drives an SUV (15 mpg local, 18 hwy) or a truck (18 mpg local, 20 hwy).
Who do poor people drive gas guzzlers? For the same reason that poor people are more likely to do things like smoke cigarettes or play the lottery: a lot of poor people are poor because they are stupid.
Ignorant =/= stupid.
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Originally Posted by ovi8
True story - the Sonata gets a mix of 26 on paper but real world is more like 18mpg. My SUV gets 16mpg. Plenty of crossovers do better too. Beginning to wonder how much Hyundai cheats on their mpg numbers.
False.
"Real world" MPG depends on the driver. Anyone can beat on a car and make its MPG look like crap. Those same people then rip the car up in auto journals. I had a Kia Optima (same family as Hyundai) in the desert and got 40 MPG at 75 mph. SUV's can't do that, sorry.
It may not even be ignorant. It may be "best they can do."
I keep hearing about "poor people" with expensive cars. I don't know exactly what these writers mean by "poor" nor do I know exactly what they mean by "expensive."
Poor to me means that you're living in subsidized housing with subsidized food, depend on Medicaid as your only source of medical care, and buy clothes and furniture exclusively at the Goodwill and Salvation Army stores.
A "poor" person would not have been able to save up a down payment on a new car and can't get credit for a new car--at least not for the full price of one. A poor person has to buy a used car at absurd interest rates from "Shady Sam's Used Cars" and must take whatever Sam has on his lot of cars that the dealers didn't want to sell...which will not include a Prius.
Apparently, you don't know much about simple physics. The heavier the vehicle, the harder it is on roadways, not to mention pollution. Obviously less educated people are going to drive giant SUVs and empty pickups, because they are not advanced vehicles. These large vehicles are in 70's mode.
Obviously, you have no idea how people use their SUV's and pickup trucks. Have you ever considered that maybe they have a boat or camper to tow? Maybe they have 6 or more people in their family? Have you considered that the "empty" pickup truck might be on the way to pickup (pun intended) something that can't fit in your mini-econo-box? Maybe that SUV or truck owner is a tradesman and you just happen to see them driving on their day off work?
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Originally Posted by h_curtis
I stick by my original statement. It isn't about poor, it is more about education. The example given was Trader Joe's, which is actually a reasonably priced place to shop with great quality in comparison to Walmart and McDonalds. You will see the overweight poorer people at the Walmarts and McDonalds. Of course these are general observations and like most statistics, they don't mean ALL poor, or ALL educated, or ALL anything. Just MORE, not ALL.
Oh and when you call someone a name like, "elitist liberal", do you think that strengthens your argument and makes you sound intelligent?
Does claiming that fat, poor, uneducated people shop at Walmart and eat McDonald's food (what if they got the salad?) make you sound intelligent? I stand by my claim that you are indeed, an elitist liberal.
True story - the Sonata gets a mix of 26 on paper but real world is more like 18mpg. My SUV gets 16mpg. Plenty of crossovers do better too. Beginning to wonder how much Hyundai cheats on their mpg numbers.
True story - the Sonata gets a mix of 26 on paper but real world is more like 18mpg. My SUV gets 16mpg. Plenty of crossovers do better too. Beginning to wonder how much Hyundai cheats on their mpg numbers.
Really?
My lifted Jeep with heavy bumper, larger mud tires and a glorified tractor engine has no problem getting a mix of 16. Hyundai must have done something really wrong.
I drive over to Trader Joe's or get some coffee at Starbucks I see a good amount of hybrids, mini cars, and compacts.
When I drove down to Walmart or swing by McDonalds all I see is big SUVs, trucks, and more big cars.
I was looking over at a woman in an Escalade and her 3 kids sitting inside arguing with no seat belts on. Forget how her kids are behaving, I was thinking about her $80+ fuel fill-ups. I can't even imagine spending over $100/month on gas for my Prius.
Nice, you think you are better than others because you shop at Starbucks and Trader Joes? Worry more about yourself than what the people who are "below" you are doing.
Poor people that need a car drive cheap clunkers because that is all they can afford. People like me also drive very used, but not clunking, cars because they do not want to become poor.
Poor people that need a car drive cheap clunkers because that is all they can afford. People like me also drive very used, but not clunking, cars because they do not want to become poor.
Exactly, look at any used car lot.
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