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Old 08-12-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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They were under caution, so they were not at racing speed. I read that Tony was probably going 30 to 45 mph when he hit Ward.

So, I assume that you will test this and step into the middle of a typical city street where the speed limit is 35-45 MPH at night and wander around in traffic expecting people to stop? That is what this would be like, except the cars on the street have better visibility and can stop faster.

It seems like they are going so slow because they are a long way away and were going 100 and now are going less than half that, but stand on the side of a 5 lane collector street and traffic seems like it is moving pretty fast to me.

 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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So, I assume that you will test this and step into the middle of a typical city street where the speed limit is 35-45 MPH at night and wander around in traffic expecting people to stop? That is what this would be like, except the cars on the street have better visibility and can stop faster.
Don't forget to wear all black, and do it while its raining.
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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They were under caution, so they were not at racing speed. I read that Tony was probably going 30 to 45 mph when he hit Ward.
As I said, I am not familiar with this track, so I guessed at what caution speeds were. I thoroughly understand the track was under caution so nobody was going racing speed.

FYI 45 mph on dirt is very different from 45 mph on pavement regards evasive maneuvers and quick stopping. Nor do you have nice bright headlights and a nice clean windshield.

Don in Austin
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Streamwood, IL
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I like how people who's experience in racing is that of seeing one race on a TV suddenly became the all knowing powers. :|
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Streamwood, IL
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As I said, I am not familiar with this track, so I guessed at what caution speeds were. I thoroughly understand the track was under caution so nobody was going racing speed.

FYI 45 mph on dirt is very different from 45 mph on pavement regards evasive maneuvers and quick stopping. Nor do you have nice bright headlights and a nice clean windshield.

Don in Austin
you're using common sense and personal experience/knowledge.
Internet doesn't work like that.
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Competition can bring out the worst in some people. Also, Tony has made threats in the past to run down another driver.
After he's been crashed out on purpose. Again, what in THIS scenario would have made him angry?? Hmmm???

He's also said crashes that other people started were "just racing" and NOT got mad about them, because they were just accidents. So you can't just say any crash he's involved in, even tangentally, he gets angry and makes death threats.
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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"From what I saw, Tony did everything in his power to turn down away from Kevin to avoid him," said sprint car driver Cory Sparks.
Sparks was just a few cars behind Stewart during Saturday's race. He said videos that have been posted online do not give an accurate picture of what happened.

"People say that they heard the engine rev up and he gassed it. In a sprint car, the only way to steer is you steer with the rear wheels as much as you do the steering wheel. In my opinion, what he did was he gassed it to turn down away from him," said Sparks.

Sparks also said drivers are very limited with the amount they can see out of the right side of the car.

"Kevin was wearing all-black. A black fire suit, a black helmet, which in normal situations isn't a big deal, they are to go with the colors of your car. It was tragic accident and a mistake was made," said Sparks.

Witness to Tony Stewart Crash Says Driver Could Not Have Avoided Hitting Other Driver - Time Warner Cable News
What would Sparks know? (sarcasm) He only knows how sprint car racing works from the driver's seat as opposed to from a recliner seat in front of a TV.

Has anybody mentioned that when you are properly strapped in to a race car your neck movement to look around you is limited?

Don in Austin
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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What would Sparks know? (sarcasm) He only knows how sprint car racing works from the driver's seat as opposed to from a recliner seat in front of a TV.

Has anybody mentioned that when you are properly strapped in to a race car your neck movement to look around you is limited?
I think I mentioned it in passing a couple times, lastly on page 10.
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Streamwood, IL
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Has anybody mentioned that when you are properly strapped in to a race car your neck movement to look around you is limited?
not only that, but when you're driving a loosely controlled vehicle (Formula D, Sprint cars, twisties experience here), you're not paying a whole lot of attention to what's going on outside of your car's passage width.

I've caught a bunch of flack for this before on tracks, but I know I've failed to drop my speeds on the warning flag right away because I was very much focused on the road and keeping my vehicle in the position I needed it to be in (be it sideways or hugging a turn).
 
Old 08-12-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Ive watched it a few more times and hope they release the other video. I don't think TS tried to hit him on purpose but rather speed past him to avoid having an altercation with him. He saw the kid. He knew the kid was upset and was out of the car in order to have it out with him. If he was going slow enough and the kid got in front he would have had to have stopped and dealt with him. That means unbuckling and getting out and have to throw down. Im not saying TS was scared to face him or anything like that - he just didn't want to deal with the BS and blow his racing zone. So his orginal intent was to just drive right past the kid who was dumb enough to get too close thinking TS would slow down or get out and want to fight. By the time both men realized what the other was doing, it was too late.
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