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Old 07-07-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I can see the criminal element having a field day with driverless cars. Late at night on less busy roads, on bikes robbing people at gun point. But like you mentioned I can see a bunch of ruly teens harassing car owners and not letting them drive ahead by keeping if front of their cars.
All it will take is a few stories like that in the news and most people will not want any part of them.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:56 PM
 
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I can see the criminal element having a field day with driverless cars. Late at night on less busy roads, on bikes robbing people at gun point. But like you mentioned I can see a bunch of ruly teens harassing car owners and not letting them drive ahead by keeping if front of their cars.
That's when the machine gun turret and flame throwers pop out from all sides of the vehicle and neutralizes the threat immediately and the car drives on, easy peasy lemon squeezy!

All you have left is some charred ashes of the hooligans, problem solved! The car will already be zombie apocalypse certified.

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Old 07-08-2017, 01:49 AM
 
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What about wildlife? The kind that can kill you? I drive in an area with a large deer population and have been hit by deer (not hit them) twice but have missed hitting them dozens of times. Will an autocar recognize an instantaneous reflection off a deer's eyes in the dark a few hundred yards ahead and reduce speed? Will it know that when a deer crosses in front of you more often than not there is another or two or three behind it?
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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And what about if there is a large pothole in the road will a autocar recognize it and swerve to avoid it, un the northern states like Michigan the roads take a beating and have many potholes. If you hit them you will tear up your car in a heartbeat.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: City of the Angels
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Personally, I could never ride in a driverless car.
There are too many safety behavior patterns engrained in my brain to watch alternative patterns from a programmed machine.
I can't even trust my wife's driving habits
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Old 07-08-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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What about wildlife? The kind that can kill you? I drive in an area with a large deer population and have been hit by deer (not hit them) twice but have missed hitting them dozens of times. Will an autocar recognize an instantaneous reflection off a deer's eyes in the dark a few hundred yards ahead and reduce speed? Will it know that when a deer crosses in front of you more often than not there is another or two or three behind it?
In all honesty neither a driverless car or a human driver is going to see a deer's eyes, before hitting it. If you look at dashcam videos of deer strikes, there is barely time to see the deer, let alone it's eyes. Usually one frame of the deer running into the path of the car, and the next frame the deer is rolling off the hood.

I do agree that anticipating in advance where the deer are likely to be, such as right after seeing another one, is the best defence against hitting them. I doubt driverless cars will ever be able to do that as well as humans.
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Southwest
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What about wildlife? The kind that can kill you? I drive in an area with a large deer population and have been hit by deer (not hit them) twice but have missed hitting them dozens of times. Will an autocar recognize an instantaneous reflection off a deer's eyes in the dark a few hundred yards ahead and reduce speed? Will it know that when a deer crosses in front of you more often than not there is another or two or three behind it?
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And what about if there is a large pothole in the road will a autocar recognize it and swerve to avoid it, un the northern states like Michigan the roads take a beating and have many potholes. If you hit them you will tear up your car in a heartbeat.
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In all honesty neither a driverless car or a human driver is going to see a deer's eyes, before hitting it. If you look at dashcam videos of deer strikes, there is barely time to see the deer, let alone it's eyes. Usually one frame of the deer running into the path of the car, and the next frame the deer is rolling off the hood.

I do agree that anticipating in advance where the deer are likely to be, such as right after seeing another one, is the best defence against hitting them. I doubt driverless cars will ever be able to do that as well as humans.
The vehicles will see far better than a human over a broader spectra. They will pick up a deer way before a human would and react to it much more quickly.

You can of course work out a scenario where an autonomous vehicle is not able to see a deer coming. Park a semi next to the highway and put the deer behind it. Then the autonomous car hits the deer. So no it is not fool proof but still a lot better than a human could do.

They will do fine on potholes. The tricky case that may cause problems is potholes filled with water on a wet street. That one is tough for a autonomous vehicle or a human. That is the stuff that will eventually get flagged by communication systems but those will be a while coming.
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Old 07-08-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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In all honesty neither a driverless car or a human driver is going to see a deer's eyes, before hitting it. If you look at dashcam videos of deer strikes, there is barely time to see the deer, let alone it's eyes. Usually one frame of the deer running into the path of the car, and the next frame the deer is rolling off the hood.

I do agree that anticipating in advance where the deer are likely to be, such as right after seeing another one, is the best defence against hitting them. I doubt driverless cars will ever be able to do that as well as humans.
That's just wrong; on numerous occasions I have seen from a distance that slight reflection and kept my focus on that area while slowing to pass it, as recently as a few weeks ago.
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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That's just wrong; on numerous occasions I have seen from a distance that slight reflection and kept my focus on that area while slowing to pass it, as recently as a few weeks ago.
And while you'll looking there, a deer jumps out from the woods sooner and you hit it looking at the deer further away. A car's radar sees everything at once. Humans suck at driving because they only have crappy sight that can only focus in one place at once.

Here's an example what an autonomous cars sees.

https://youtu.be/VG68SKoG7vE
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Another problem is sketchy crime ridden areas. When I'm driving I know there are certain areas to avoid, but a self driving car will simply want to go the quickest route. Now if you're in a familiar area you may be able to "lock out" certain streets on the gps or something, but I'm not sure what would happen in a strange place that you don't know anything about.
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