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Old 07-27-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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Filihok - what do you think of the deal for the Whitesox?
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Asheville
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I like Frazor, he's a very useful 8th inning guy
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Filihok - what do you think of the deal for the Whitesox?
As I said, I'll look at it more later.

My gut instinct is 'salary dump'. I don't think Stewart is that good and relievers just aren't that valuable.

The Jays got Rasmus for Jackson (plus other stuff), the White Sox got much less.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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As I said, I'll look at it more later.
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Jackson and more flipped to the Cardinals

The Final Deal:
Cards Receive: Edwin Jackson, Mark Rzepczynski, Cory Patterson, Octavio Dotel
Blue Jays Receive: Colby Rasmus, Mark Teahen, Brian Tallet, Trever Miller, PJ Walters
Chi Sox Receive: Jason Frasor, Zack Stewart

Off the top of my head, big win for the Jays. Rasmus is the best player in the deal. And getting the best player is usually a good thing.

Stewart has mixed reviews. He's certainly not an A+ prospect.

The Cardinals got some good players, but gave up a very valuable piece in Rasmus
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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sorry to waste your time, you can bill me at your hourly rate
I thought I said that...implied it with 'off the top of my head'...

Off the top of my head again:
Jays made out the best
White Sox did better than the Cards (but could have done better) who traded a young cost controlled talented player for 10 or so starts out of Jackson, two meh relievers and a below average outfielder. Plus they added a bunch of salary. Money that could have possibly been offered to Pujols...
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Hometown of Jason Witten
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The Mariners loaded the bases with no outs in the fifth but only scored one run. They lead 2-0 at halftime.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Filihok: Ervin Santana: An Odd, Yet, Not So Odd, No-No

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Back in May Francisco Liriano threw an odd no-hitter.

Then, a week later, Justin Verlander thew a no-hitter.

Today, it was Ervin Santana's turn.

Santana's no-hitter looks a lot more like Verlander's than Liriano's, yet, it was still a bit odd in that the Angels gave up a run. The first-inning run was unearned and scored on an error, stolen base, sac fly, and wild pitch.

Using batted ball FIP, we can see that Verlander was expected to give up about 1.4 runs based on the balls hit against him while Liriano was expected to give up closer to 4 and a half runs.

How about Santana? Santana pitched 9 innings (obviously), facing 29 batters, he walked 1 while striking out 10. Of his 104 pitches, 74 were strikes (71%). He induced 13 ground balls, 3 flies and 0 line drives. Plugging those numbers in gives us an expected run total of 0.29.

Santana was obviously in control.

The major league average BABIP on ground balls is about .140. Santana gave up 13 grounders so we'd expect 1.82 (.140*13) hits. There were none of course; thanks to good defensive plays like this one from Howie Kendrick.

Of the three no-hitters this season, Santana's looks like the most well-pitched.
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The Mariners dropped their 16th straight game tonight, losing to the Yankees 10-3.

That seven run difference is the most one sided loss in the streak. They lost by six runs once, five runs twice, four runs four times, three runs once, two runs five times and one run twice. Overall they have been outscored 97-43. Pythagorean expectation for that over 16 games would be a 3-13 record, so Seattle has only been a little unlucky, we're looking at genuine badness.
The Odds Behind Seattle’s Losing Streak | FanGraphs Baseball

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The odds [of the Mariners losing these 17 consecutive games] were 1-in-10,560, or about the same that a person will get hit by lightning in their lifetime. The good news is that the streak is over. Seattle no longer has to worry about becoming the sixth member of the 20+ club or, worse, passing the 1961 Phillies for the longest losing streak in history (23 games).
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The Mariners loaded the bases with no outs in the fifth but only scored one run. They lead 2-0 at halftime.
They finally snapped the 17 game losing streak. Although I usually root for the Yankees, I couldn't help but feel bad for Seattle. Glad they finally got a win.
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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Braves lost =)
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