Relocating to Hilo - Advice on Housing, Neighborhoods, Work? (school, versus)

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Rain Monkey

Just out of curiosity, does being an uncertified teacher necessarily make a particular person a 'bad' teacher versus one who is certified? I presume hiring and retention is determined by the principals of the individual schools, and consequently the performance of the teachers is ultimately the principal's responsibility.

Would a person who becomes a cop without going through a police academy be qualified to be a cop? It would be absurd for a person who knows nothing about policing starts to go on patrol. Same thing with teaching. You may even know a subject, but It doesn’t make them qualified to teach. They didn’t go through a teaching program.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

I’m not sure what views you’re talking about, but What complaints have I had outside the HDOE hiring process?

Well - I don't have the time and motivation to go thru your posting history -

But things started unraveling in July 2017 when you posted the quote below: Things may have been different if you followed your own bolded advice below.

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

I'm not saying it's a done deal; nothing is guaranteed in life and nothing is just given to you, but rather has to be earned. If the hiring for HDOE is a far hiring system, I have few doubts she would not be considered for a position. Being last year HDOE was short 1600 positions and one of the positions in high demand is in her content area, they really have no choice but to hire fairly. Being short 1600 positions in such a small state, one has to assume no one is knocking down any doors to teach there. By no means am I intending to come off contentious, I'm just stating the reality Hawaii's in for retaining teachers and acquiring teachers. If for whatever reason she does not receive an offer from the HDOE, she can also look into private schools. If neither of the two pan out, yeah, it will be disappointing, but we just stay in Virginia. What's meant to be is meant to be.

Not to be boastful and this will not come off humbly. She will have to do at least two interviews and she interviews very well. She can look amazing on paper, magna *** laude, will be five years contracted teaching experience, two degrees and two masters, but if she sounds like an idiot in an interview, none of her accomplishments matter. When she interviewed in Virginia, she interviewed for three school districts and received an offer from each one. She beat out numerous teachers for the same position and it is safe to assume Virginia is more competitive than Hawaii in acquiring a teaching position. Again, I'm not assuming it's a guarantee she gets an offer, but it won't be because she is not qualified. When she interviews, they may very well not like her teaching style. It might not fit into what outcome they want. They may not want to hire a teacher with two masters because they would have to pay her more. It is cheaper to hire a teacher with just a bachelors. They may think she is too old and may be too set in her ways to adjust for teaching in Hawaii. We can list the what ifs all day. All she can do is apply and take it from there. If she gets offered a position, we have a big decision to make depending on where they want her to teach. If she doesn't, we continue our life in Virginia and Hawaii will be a place we just visit. And right now she is half way through her administrative masters. If she ends up landing a administrative job here in Virginia with the DOE, we may very well decide not to move to Hawaii.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

She won’t be considered a resident because for one, she doesn’t possess a Hawaii ID and secondly, by resident, I think they mean more a local Who was educated at Hawaii University than a mainlander who moved here.

Residency isn't determined by a State ID or Drivers License.

A Hawaii Resident is an individual that is domiciled in Hawaii or an individual that resides in Hawaii for other than temporary purpose. An individual domiciled outside Hawaii is considered a Hawaii resident if they spend more than 200 days in Hawaii. If the stay is temporary, you may need to prove you were a permanent resident of another state.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

Well - I don't have the time and motivation to go thru your posting history -

But things started unraveling in July 2017 when you posted the quote below: Things may have been different if you followed your own bolded advice below.

Isn’t that post HDOE related? I’m not sure how that equates to unraveling? And her not being offered a position could very possibly be covid related, no? It happens to be one of the worst pandemics in modern history and schools may not even open up for the entire year. Why hire teachers that are not needed. They aren’t even virtually teaching.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

Residency isn't determined by a State ID or Drivers License.

A Hawaii Resident is an individual that is domiciled in Hawaii or an individual that resides in Hawaii for other than temporary purpose. An individual domiciled outside Hawaii is considered a Hawaii resident if they spend more than 200 days in Hawaii. If the stay is temporary, you may need to prove you were a permanent resident of another state.

That’s wonderful news. Then maybe she can find out something in May rather than June.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

Isn’t that post HDOE related? And her not being offered a position could very possibly be covid related, no? It happens to be one of the worst pandemics in modern history and schools may not even open up for the entire year. Why hire teachers that are not needed. They aren’t even virtually teaching.

Multiple times in that thread you stated you weren't moving to Hawaii unless she was offered a teaching position - including the post I quoted to you - presumably because teaching is important to her.

What makes absolutely no sense is - if teaching is that important, why didn't you (and her) follow your own advice and not move unless a position is secured? Or, if teaching is not that important - why move from Hawaii?

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

Multiple times in that thread you stated you weren't moving to Hawaii unless she was offered a teaching position - including the post I quoted to you - presumably because teaching is important to her.

What makes absolutely no sense is - if teaching is that important, why didn't you (and her) follow your own advice and not move unless a position is secured? Or, if teaching is not that important - why move from Hawaii?

We took a chance. People take risks all the time. We didn’t count on Covid being this devastating where schools would shut down not only for an entire semester, but possibly for the entire year. Fortunately I have a decent job and she is cleaning vacation rentals on top of my pension. If it doesn’t work out, it was a nice long vacation. Trying to see the silver lining in all this.

[Rain Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

Would a person who becomes a cop without going through a police academy be qualified to be a cop? It would be absurd for a person who knows nothing about policing starts to go on patrol. Same thing with teaching. You may even know a subject, but It doesn’t make them qualified to teach. They didn’t go through a teaching program.

Your reply completely begs the question I asked. In addition, you created a false equivalency by conflating the requirements of two entirely different professions, i.e. policing and teaching. As for certification, I am fairly certain you and your your wife have encountered less than desirable teachers and police while engaged in your respective professions. I seem to recall you have acknowledged as much in past posts. Where these alleged bad apples you encountered, 'certified'?

[Futuremauian]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

Isn’t that post HDOE related? I’m not sure how that equates to unraveling? And her not being offered a position could very possibly be covid related, no? It happens to be one of the worst pandemics in modern history and schools may not even open up for the entire year. Why hire teachers that are not needed. They aren’t even virtually teaching.[/b]

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com...land-students/

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Futuremauian

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com...land-students/

Not according to A teacher we know here. She mostly sits in her classroom and answer questions on the computer. She says there is hardly any teaching going on. What the DOE says to the media is one thing and what is actually happening is another. The only students who are getting in person learning are special needs students.