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[terracore]

"If teaching is such a great gig, why is there a growing nation-wide shortage of teachers?"


Hawaii DOE | Job Opportunities

"The Department of Education employs about 13,000 teachers, librarians and counselors, and an additional 12,000 educational officers, civil service and support personnel."

Maybe because there are more administrators employed by the department than actual teachers? I used to have a link to actual breakdown by of administration versus teaching positions but they took it down.

[terracore]

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/01/he...4TJR0CDL1M979G



When Civil Beat requested new names and numbers for its public employees salary database from public agencies throughout the islands last summer, most responded with all the requested information rapidly.

That wasn’t the case for three of Hawaii’s four county governments.

While the Kauai numbers came in quickly, it took considerably longer for Maui and the Big Island, and their numbers are still incomplete.

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Dept Name Title Salary Range Descending Year
Education Keith Hayashi Supt of Education $200,000 $250,000 2018 Details
Education Jamie Yap 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Ron Okamura 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Jason Nakamoto 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Frederick Murphy 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Meryl Matsumura 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Robin Martin 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Jonhenry Lee 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Disa Hauge 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Elden Esmeralda 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Alfredo Carganilla 12-Mo HS Prin VIII $133,597 $189,119 2018 Details
Education Sean Wong 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education John Vannatta 12-Mo CSA Prin VI $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Bernadette Tyrell 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education James Sunday 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Helen Sanpei 12-Mo CSA Prin VI $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Mitchell Otani 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Wilfred Murakami 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Donna Rea Lindsey 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Kelcy Koga 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Catherine Kilborn 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Joseph Halfmann 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Richard Fajardo 12-Mo MT Inter Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Mark Elliott 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Robert Dircks 12-Mo HS Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Elynne Eiko Chung 12-Mo MT Inter Prin VII $128,139 $181,392 2018 Details
Education Gary Yasui 12-Mo MT Elem Prin V $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education John Wataoka 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Sean Tajima 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Shawn Suzuki 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Kim Sanders 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Darin Pilialoha 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Lisa Nagamine Principal in Residence $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Justin Sung Nam Mew 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Jacquelyn McCandless 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Rachelle Matsumura 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Amy Martinson 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Tom Kurashige 12-Mo Inter Prin V $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Anne Kane 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Susan Hummel 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Francine Honda 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Michael Harano 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Daniel Hamada 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Frank Fernandes 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Randell Dunn 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Matthew Dillon 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Dean Cevallos 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Darlene Bee 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Debra Badua 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Wade Araki 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Christine Alexander 12-Mo HS Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Lorelei Aiwohi 12-Mo Inter Prin VI $122,906 $173,987 2018 Details
Education Duane Kashiwai Public Works Admr $104,232 $173,496 2018 Details
Education Francis Cheung Engineering Prgm Admr $104,232 $173,496 2018 Details
Education Teri Ushijima Ldrshp Insti Exec Dir $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Arthur Souza Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Ruth Silberstein Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Tammi Oyadomari-Chun Assistant Superintendent for Ofc of Strat, Innov & Perf $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Steven Nakasato Principal in Residence $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Corrin Mulcahy Asst Supt, Curr/Inst $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Ann A M Mahi Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Rodney Luke Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Amy Kunz Deputy Superintendent $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Barbara Krieg Asst Supt, Human Res $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Donna Kagawa Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Matthew Ho Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Lanelle Dee Hibbs Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Chad Farias Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education John Erickson Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Robert Davis Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Dann Carlson Asst Supt, Business Svcs $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Brad Bennett Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Lindsay Ball Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Heidi Armstrong Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education William Arakaki Complex Area Supt $130,000 $170,000 2018 Details
Education Christopher Wilhelm 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Brenda Vierra-Chun 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Mavis Tasaka 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Stanley Tamashiro 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Ann Sugibayashi 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Melissa Speetjens 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Lisa Souza 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Janette Snelling 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Timothy Shim 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Noel Richardson 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Angel Ramos 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Ann Paulino 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Richard Paul 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Cindy Otsu 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Stacey Oshio 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Sarah Omalza 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Hanh Nguyen 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Anne Marie Murphy 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Glen Miyasato 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Wendy Joy Matsuzaki 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Nancy Matsukawa 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Suzie Lee 12-Mo Elem Prin IV $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Kristine Kosa-Correia 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Elton Kino****a 12-Mo HS Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details
Education Ursula Kawaguchi 12-Mo Inter Prin V $117,884 $166,875 2018 Details

Yeah... the formatting doesn't take well and that is just 1 page out of 201. But one can play with the link.

[Futuremauian]

Originally Posted by terracore

"If teaching is such a great gig, why is there a growing nation-wide shortage of teachers?"


Hawaii DOE | Job Opportunities

"The Department of Education employs about 13,000 teachers, librarians and counselors, and an additional 12,000 educational officers, civil service and support personnel."

Maybe because there are more administrators employed by the department than actual teachers? I used to have a link to actual breakdown by of administration versus teaching positions but they took it down.

If I'm not mistaken, the support personnel includes custodians, cafeteria workers, crossing guards, classroom aides, secretaries, gardeners, security guards, and more.

There are also psychologists, hearing specialists, nurses, drug counselors, and a variety of other positions that are required by the Federal DOE in order to remain in compliance with Federal regulations.

Public Watchdog groups regularly monitor the ratios of teachers to administrators and I'm sure the numbers are available somewhere...just don't care enough to look for them.

Meanwhile, there remains a growing nation-wide shortage of teachers. This state was short more than 1,000 last year. The number one problem is low pay. Supply and Demand would dictate higher pay to solve the shortage. Instead states are "making-do" with uncertificated teachers. In areas designated hard to staff, people only need a high school diploma to substitute teach.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by terracore

"If teaching is such a great gig, why is there a growing nation-wide shortage of teachers?"


Hawaii DOE | Job Opportunities

"The Department of Education employs about 13,000 teachers, librarians and counselors, and an additional 12,000 educational officers, civil service and support personnel."

Maybe because there are more administrators employed by the department than actual teachers? I used to have a link to actual breakdown by of administration versus teaching positions but they took it down.

And the teacher shortage is just going to get worse here because of that. As more mainland schools compete for qualified teachers, the less likely qualified teachers will come to Hawaii. There is always Braddah’s niece’s uncle who has their GED who can teach and the Philippines. Put them on a teacher program and they are good to go.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Futuremauian

If I'm not mistaken, the support personnel includes custodians, cafeteria workers, crossing guards, classroom aides, secretaries, gardeners, security guards, and more.

There are also psychologists, hearing specialists, nurses, drug counselors, and a variety of other positions that are required by the Federal DOE in order to remain in compliance with Federal regulations.

Public Watchdog groups regularly monitor the ratios of teachers to administrators and I'm sure the numbers are available somewhere...just don't care enough to look for them.

Meanwhile, there remains a growing nation-wide shortage of teachers. This state was short more than 1,000 last year. The number one problem is low pay. Supply and Demand would dictate higher pay to solve the shortage. Instead states are "making-do" with uncertificated teachers. In areas designated hard to staff, people only need a high school diploma to substitute teach.

Because of that, the teacher shortage will only get worse here. Maybe my wife did have three bad interviews as you suggest, but considering demand is higher than the supply, you take a shot on the highly qualified experienced teacher. If it doesn’t pan out, you do not continue their contract the following year. If it does work out with that teacher, great. I just can’t imagine there is all of a sudden this influx of highly qualified experienced Secondary English teachers who have come here to teach where all open English positions have been filled by qualified and certified English teachers. My intuition says “not a chance.”

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Dreaming of Hawaii

My husband was a teacher for many years. He loved what he did, so no complaining. Firstly, teachers do not work a 9 to 5 job. Almost every night he was grading tests, preparing for the next day, etc. Plus he worked extra curricular coaching teams that went to (and won) math competitions at the state and national level. And he was in charge of the chess club. I'm sure I've forgotten half of what he did, but he was super busy every night.

Summers off? Not. He did all the scheduling for the K-8 school he worked for, plus he was very involved with training new teachers as head of the math department. And he did tutoring.

We were fortunate that he worked for a good school district in Colorado, and we were able to retire in his late 60s and move to Hawaii.

A lot of teachers will teach summer school too, eating up a good portion of their summer. My wife would teach summer school all the time and it was for paltry pay. Her work was never over at the end of the school day. There is grading papers, she would volunteer for extra curricular activities, tweaking lesson plans, after school meetings, and so on. She was also team leader that took up time.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

There is always Braddah’s niece’s uncle who has their GED who can teach and the Philippines.

Speaking of the Philippines - DOE started a recruitment effort prior to Corona in the Philippines

https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/01/ha...cher-recruits/

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

Speaking of the Philippines - DOE started a recruitment effort prior to Corona in the Philippines

https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/01/ha...cher-recruits/

I know. I’m curious if they will hire foreign teachers who are not certified over qualified certified teachers from the mainland.

[Futuremauian]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

Because of that, the teacher shortage will only get worse here. Maybe my wife did have three bad interviews as you suggest, but considering demand is higher than the supply, you take a shot on the highly qualified experienced teacher. If it doesn’t pan out, you do not continue their contract the following year. If it does work out with that teacher, great. I just can’t imagine there is all of a sudden this influx of highly qualified experienced Secondary English teachers who have come here to teach where all open English positions have been filled by qualified and certified English teachers. My intuition says “not a chance.”

Not trying to whip a dead horse here, but your wife was denied teaching jobs in all 3 states where she applied. You cited disfunction in each of the DOEs as the reason.

Either she interviews really badly or she is being followed by a poor performance review. I fully understand that you don't agree but there aren't any other reasonable explanations.

Before her job-ending email, I had hoped that subbing would give local principals an opportunity to see her shine in a classroom and overcome whatever is holding her back. Now, I assume she will be placed on the "Do Not Call" list and would not have the opportunity to sub.

It's probably best for her to move on to another type of employment. Perhaps she could consider a retail job while awaiting something better.

A friend of mine worked for the Post Office for a decade before a teaching job became available to her.

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by Futuremauian

Not trying to whip a dead horse here, but your wife was denied teaching jobs in all 3 states where she applied. You cited disfunction in each of the DOEs as the reason.

Either she interviews really badly or she is being followed by a poor performance review. I fully understand that you don't agree but there aren't any other reasonable explanations.

Before her job-ending email, I had hoped that subbing would give local principals an opportunity to see her shine in a classroom and overcome whatever is holding her back. Now, I assume she will be placed on the "Do Not Call" list and would not have the opportunity to sub.

It's probably best for her to move on to another type of employment. Perhaps she could consider a retail job while awaiting something better.

A friend of mine worked for the Post Office for a decade before a teaching job became available to her.

Who said anything about her being denied positions in three states? For an educator, your reading comprehension is lacking. She had five interviews here on the BI and two of those interviews for certain were just formalities and the other three, who knows. They very well could have been formalities too. She could have interviewed bad for all three, but that’s quite a stretch. She was offered two positions back on the mainland, One in Florida and one in Georgia. We decided to wait it out. We Didn’t move here just to turn around and give up. Followed the advice of a poster here who said just stick it out a year and see how it plays out. Those jobs will be available next year or the year after that.

You’re funny, She doesn’t have a poor performance review either. I told you previously her principal said to her “I’m not sure how I’m going to replace you.”

Yeah, she has given up after seeing the DOE is doing a virtual job fair for open positions for this school year. She knows she’s most definitely blacklisted from ever teaching here for bringing to light how schools are hiring or keeping unqualified and uncertified teachers over qualified and certified ones. The one principal who she was interviewing with was more Interested playing with his dog and what was going on in his backyard than participating in the interview. Very professional. That was Waiakea High School. The DOE told her that is not the way it is suppose to be and will look into it. I think they meant they will look into putting her on the “Do not hire list” if there is such a thing. That’s funny considering it’s only going to get worse here in finding teachers. If there is such a thing, It’s clear HDOE has zero desire to improve their education system. The silver lining is, without having to teach here, the dysfunction is apparent. Fortunately we live in a big nation who wants qualified teachers.

You have a friend who was qualified and certified to teach here on the BI that it took him/her 10 years to find a position when this state has the worst teacher shortage in the United States?

She can do whatever she wants. She wasn’t always in the public sector. She worked for a Fortune 500 company prior to 2008 economic collapse. She also has a business degree. She Re-marketed herself and got her masters in education and degree in English. She graduated magna *** laude. She can go right back to the private sector if she chooses and it doesn’t have to be retail. What a condescending remark. Tool! Some teachers had a prior life than it just being all teaching. She chooses to teach.