California in ten years (2022) (house, schools, universities)

[Broadrippleguy]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

One plausible scenario:

In ten years California will be broke, perhaps bankrupt, and severely crumbling economically. As a result, the state will not be able to enforce the massive legal and regulatory burdens it imposes on its citizens. So we will face a situation common in the third world: an endless tangle of laws, many of them contradictory, but a culture of non-compliance due to chronic non-enforcement. Translation: increasing contempt and disregard for the law. Squatting on the state's vast unoccupied lands will be ubiquitous and there will be no will to evict. Substandard buildings will be erected, roads constructed, and neighborhoods developed without any regard for code, regs, taxes or fees. Businesses will operate without regard to legal permissions, restrictions, or standards. Etc.

At the same time, while the state's infrastructure is neglected and many of its laws abandoned, the state's social and ideological agenda will be pushed to extremes. Homeschooling will be illegal and prosecuted. Religious schools will have a mandatory curriculum imposed on them. Large families will be harrassed. Acceptance of homosexuality will be demanded for employment. All remaining inconveniences with respect to abortion will be removed. The Catholic Church and other Christian organizations will be forced to close colleges, universities, hospitals, orphanages, adoption agencies, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries, and so forth, because they cannot in good conscience comply with the state's demands.

The end game: economic ruin and social tyranny, combined with a massive population transfer. Those harrassed by the state's social climate will leave, and those attracted by the de facto anarchy in other respects will flood into the state.

Californiastan will also lose a congressional seat.
Already California is BELOW the US average population per congressional seat. when you go below the average your in the hot ticket to lose seats. California has 53 so its good to see the state lose some.

[Bluesmama]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

"Oh, they'll pay! City Code Enforcement will see to it that they have a pot o' gold from steep fines."

I envision this lawlessness mostly in the counties, many of which are already strapped and can't enforce their own codes. The local sheriff's department announced last year that their budget was so tight that they would only be investigating violent crimes from here on out.

Well, Code Enforcement ~ though often associated with police ~ is equally connected to the Building and Site construction departments, and those are the officials I was thinking of. When there are code violations it's usually between the construction department, Code Enforcement, and courts.

But, then, perhaps it's handled differently there, I don't know. Perhaps government municipalities have cut way back on services.

[mayorhaggar]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

One plausible scenario:

In ten years California will be broke, perhaps bankrupt, and severely crumbling economically. As a result, the state will not be able to enforce the massive legal and regulatory burdens it imposes on its citizens. So we will face a situation common in the third world: an endless tangle of laws, many of them contradictory, but a culture of non-compliance due to chronic non-enforcement. Translation: increasing contempt and disregard for the law. Squatting on the state's vast unoccupied lands will be ubiquitous and there will be no will to evict. Substandard buildings will be erected, roads constructed, and neighborhoods developed without any regard for code, regs, taxes or fees. Businesses will operate without regard to legal permissions, restrictions, or standards. Etc.

At the same time, while the state's infrastructure is neglected and many of its laws abandoned, the state's social and ideological agenda will be pushed to extremes. Homeschooling will be illegal and prosecuted. Religious schools will have a mandatory curriculum imposed on them. Large families will be harrassed. Acceptance of homosexuality will be demanded for employment. All remaining inconveniences with respect to abortion will be removed. The Catholic Church and other Christian organizations will be forced to close colleges, universities, hospitals, orphanages, adoption agencies, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries, and so forth, because they cannot in good conscience comply with the state's demands.

The end game: economic ruin and social tyranny, combined with a massive population transfer. Those harrassed by the state's social climate will leave, and those attracted by the de facto anarchy in other respects will flood into the state.

Nobody is stopping you from moving back to West Virginia. I guarantee you the second you arrive the first words out of your mouth will be "but back in California we..."

[alexxiz]

I hope that large families will be harassed. CA is overpopulated. Cities are crowded, a lot of land either has moratorium on development (or will have), or is just a poor quality land/water unavaliable, or should never be developed anyway. Uncontrollable breeding is like littering the Earth at this point. High population is not even necessary for economic growth. Increase automation + increase educational level of population and the physical population growth is not needed. There's only that much room everywhere. Unless one wants to have population race with China and see who'll pollute more. Hopefully, the future of CA is enforced population/breeding control. Hope homosexuality becomes more widespread--for the sake of population size control alone this is good. I think that mother nature can foresee things pretty well and since human population is over-saturated at this point, sharp increase in homosexuality is coming--to balance things off back to a healthier condition. As to "abortion": hope this procedure will become cheaper and more accessible (and mandatory for those who can't support their offspring!)

[sacramento916]

Originally Posted by WesternPilgrim

One plausible scenario:

In ten years California will be broke, perhaps bankrupt, and severely crumbling economically. As a result, the state will not be able to enforce the massive legal and regulatory burdens it imposes on its citizens. So we will face a situation common in the third world: an endless tangle of laws, many of them contradictory, but a culture of non-compliance due to chronic non-enforcement. Translation: increasing contempt and disregard for the law. Squatting on the state's vast unoccupied lands will be ubiquitous and there will be no will to evict. Substandard buildings will be erected, roads constructed, and neighborhoods developed without any regard for code, regs, taxes or fees. Businesses will operate without regard to legal permissions, restrictions, or standards. Etc.

At the same time, while the state's infrastructure is neglected and many of its laws abandoned, the state's social and ideological agenda will be pushed to extremes. Homeschooling will be illegal and prosecuted. Religious schools will have a mandatory curriculum imposed on them. Large families will be harrassed. Acceptance of homosexuality will be demanded for employment. All remaining inconveniences with respect to abortion will be removed. The Catholic Church and other Christian organizations will be forced to close colleges, universities, hospitals, orphanages, adoption agencies, nursing homes, assisted living facilities, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food pantries, and so forth, because they cannot in good conscience comply with the state's demands.

The end game: economic ruin and social tyranny, combined with a massive population transfer. Those harrassed by the state's social climate will leave, and those attracted by the de facto anarchy in other respects will flood into the state.

More religious lunacy. But what do you expect from someone who believes in fairytales and imaginary people.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by atvwife

CA's taxes are higher than 46 other states, "taxachusetts" being one of them.

Yep, a whole 3-4% higher than the so called low tax states.. I consider that a low fee not to have to live in one of those.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Yep, a whole 3-4% higher than the so called low tax states.. I consider that a low fee not to have to live in one of those.

A good chunk of that can be made up on lower heating bills (Mass****s love to use oil-burning furnaces... checked the price of heating oil lately?) and cars that don't turn to rust buckets in 3 years.

[GrandviewGloria]

Originally Posted by Visit a Library

This is a good post and certainly very plausible; however, I'm confused by the part about harassing large families. Currently, the state encourages large families, which is why certain peoples of questionable legal status who have no reservations about accepting financial assistance can be seen with more than half a dozen kids in tow. And as their numbers continue to grow, I'd think their family size will become more the norm.

Oh, they'll only be harassing WHITE families for having too many children. It will be like the Press in the formerly 'Great' Britain, criticizing the Beckhams for having 4 kids (while certain other groups are whelping-out far more than 4 per mother).

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

MOD CUT

I figure, in ten years... I should have a few grandchildren...

The gene pool needs some chlorine.

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by atvwife

Who do you think will be paying for your state bailout? The rest of us 3000 miles away, who would love to send our lazy "want everything for free" deadbeats outta here and off the Pacific cliff.

CA's taxes are higher than 46 other states, "taxachusetts" being one of them.

Do you understand the concept of donor state vs Recipient state? My tax dollars are already "bailing out" many red states that refuse to raise their state taxes.