02-04-2018, 04:33 AM
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Roger all that Derek.
But probably not the last sentence .
Very interesting
. A thought to keep in mind for those of us who have thought about this as a part time thing for some point in the future.
02-04-2018, 08:58 AM
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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I think the ranting is because the people who scream the loudest pretty much feel their voices are unheard and unrepresented in this state--in both the local media as well as state politics.
That's Very true tiger. Sometimes I feel like I'm living behind enemy lines.
02-04-2018, 09:06 AM
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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I agree with you about San Antonio and Waco. I probably wouldn't want to live in Waco, but the people are very nice. I live in The Woodlands (a northern suburb of Houston), but if someone told me I had to live elsewhere in Texas, both Boerne and The Dominion (both in the San Antonio metro) would be on my list....along with Colleyville (Tarrant County...suburban Fort Worth), and a few surrounding towns.
Austin is nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
I agree and...
your last eight words indicate that, after visiting, you started to get it
.
IMO, one would have to live here to completely get it.
My niece is graduating from Baylor this spring so going back to Texas. This time I'm checking out Dallas. Looking forward to it and will report back with my findings.
02-04-2018, 11:42 AM
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Yes, I can see that even if not our experience. Its their chance to vent anonymously somewhere, scream their frustrations from the rooftops! They may not realize or even care at that point that they're calling a place many love and enjoy a complete dump, disaster. Its more about a releasing their frustrations, anger etc... Someone compared it to leaving a job they hated. Instead of leaving quietly they decide tell everyone off on their way out. Who cares about burning bridges? Maybe that release makes them feel better.
Yes, that.
Some of what people say is hyperbole. But I have to say I sympathize with many of their criticisms of the state. CA holds itself up as a champion of the working and middle class, yet the standard of living for people middle class and lower in the state really isn't very good. Yet those criticisms fall on deaf ears.
And many so-called liberal people--who purport to be models of compassion--write off people making such criticisms as losers. Even the more honest people on the liberal end of the political spectrum have been pointing out that a good portion of what the state's critics say is true. I've posted the links. It makes no difference to people who think they and their state is superior and beyond reproach.
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02-04-2018, 03:09 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Tulemutt
Roger all that Derek. But probably not the last sentence
.
Haha, yeah, realistically you're probably right. Something like this may end up being more acceptable for touring around the country
part of the year . A boat on wheels.
Derek
02-04-2018, 03:56 PM
Location: On the water.
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Haha, yeah, realistically you're probably right. Something like this may end up being more acceptable for touring around the country
part of the year . A boat on wheels.
Derek
They're great, Derek. Love 'em. And they don't sink unless you back them down the boat ramp all the way ...
Funny how your thread turned into a referendum on tulemutt's lifestlye, eh bro?
. I may have to come back and amuse y'all with a few more zingers ... we'll see. Muggy day on the beach here in Waimanalo. Few more weeks and I think I'll hop a flight back home. Once I get around my tool bag again I'll probably stop posting so much what with having better distractions to get into up to my elbows!
02-04-2018, 04:17 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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They're great, Derek. Love 'em. And they don't sink unless you back them down the boat ramp all the way ...
Funny how your thread turned into a referendum on tulemutt's lifestlye, eh bro?
. I may have to come back and amuse y'all with a few more zingers ... we'll see. Muggy day on the beach here in Waimanalo. Few more weeks and I think I'll hop a flight back home. Once I get around my tool bag again I'll probably stop posting so much what with having better distractions to get into up to my elbows!
Yeah, I hear ya! No problemo, my friend. Its CD so no surprises there. Monterey has actually been quite warm lately as well. Though probably not as muggy as HI. It's been sunny with calm waters out on the Bay.
Do you keep a boat over there in HI? I was imaging Tulemutt bravely crossing the Pacific solo in the middle of winter!
BTW, my dad was an old boat builder and loved HI as well after serving there during the Korean war. He said he fought the battle of bikini beach as a lifeguard on the one of the military beaches. If he was still alive today, he'd probably very much enjoy living on a boat like you.
Take care amigo and safe travels. I've always enjoyed your road less traveled POV.
Derek
02-04-2018, 04:59 PM
Location: In the Redwoods
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Yes, I can see that even if not our experience. Its their chance to vent anonymously somewhere, scream their frustrations from the rooftops! They may not realize or even care at that point that they're calling a place many love and enjoy a complete dump, disaster. Its more about a releasing their frustrations, anger etc... Someone compared it to leaving a job they hated. Instead of leaving quietly they decide tell everyone off on their way out. Who cares about burning bridges? Maybe that release makes them feel better.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I only rant - very little raving, lol. I've been in California for most of my life (since 1983), and love so much about it, but also have begun to dislike too much. I love the scenery, weather, cultural diversity, outdoor activities, shopping, and food choices. I dislike the cost of living, of course, in addition to the increasing congestion and seemingly increase of inconsiderate people.
I've likened my current state of mind to someone who's ready to break up with their SO (just hasn't bit the bullet yet), and everything about them has begun to grate on the nerves. I find my frustrations are only getting worse, so it might be time to break up with California, or at least the Bay Area. As for why we don't "go quietly," as others have mentioned, you're on a forum intended for
moving discussions . So yes, you will find people ranting about why they want to move! I discuss these issues with my friends and family too, but on here I can get input and advice from people who don't know me personally - and therefore might have a fresh outlook, not biased by what they already know. Also, yes, misery does love company.
02-04-2018, 05:00 PM
Location: On the water.
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Yeah, I hear ya! No problemo, my friend. Its CD so no surprises there. Monterey has actually been quite warm lately as well. Though probably not as muggy as HI. It's been sunny with calm waters out on the Bay.
Do you keep a boat over there in HI? I was imaging Tulemutt bravely crossing the Pacific solo in the middle of winter!
BTW, my dad was an old boat builder and loved HI as well after serving there during the Korean war. He said he fought the battle of bikini beach as a lifeguard on the one of the military beaches. If he was still alive today, he'd probably very much enjoy living on a boat like you.
Take care amigo and safe travels. I've always enjoyed your road less traveled POV.
Derek
Smallest boat I ever sailed to Hawaii was an aircraft carrier ... nope, no boat here. Friend kept one here and I thought about it ... but I don't much care for this boating venues. Nothing but big waves, swells, currents, and winds and squalls. Few harbors to tuck into. Unfriendly state waters / harbors controls. I just come some years for short stays to veg in a tent. Not a regular thing.
02-04-2018, 05:03 PM
Location: In the Redwoods
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Haha, yeah, realistically you're probably right. Something like this may end up being more acceptable for touring around the country
part of the year . A boat on wheels.
Yeesssss!!! I've always dreamed of having an Airstream, but probably not until I retire - which is still some years away, lol. Gorgeous vehicle.
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People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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. A thought to keep in mind for those of us who have thought about this as a part time thing for some point in the future.
BTW, my dad was an old boat builder and loved HI as well after serving there during the Korean war. He said he fought the battle of bikini beach as a lifeguard on the one of the military beaches. If he was still alive today, he'd probably very much enjoy living on a boat like you. 
